Re: Heimdal Bugs re update-alternatives

2025-02-15 Thread Brian May
Gabor Gombas writes: > This one is nothing special - some commands behaving differently based > on argv[0] is a traditional Unix thing. "(exec -a klist klist.heimdal)" > should work. Sorry, not 100% sure what you are trying to say here. Are you suggesting that https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bu

Re: Heimdal Bugs re update-alternatives

2025-02-15 Thread Brian May
Gabor Gombas writes: > Exactly - that's why making the KDC package Conflicts: with the other > implementation would be a quick fix. There aren't many KDC > implementations, and I think Shishi does not use kadmin (I'm not sure, I > never used it), so maintaining such Conflicts: does not sound like

Re: Heimdal Bugs re update-alternatives

2025-02-11 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 09:59:26AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > As someone who used to have to regularly deal with multi-implementation > Kerberos setups, I can confirm that there is a real need to be able to > install the Heimdal clients and the MIT clients (including kadmin) at the > same time.

Re: Heimdal Bugs re update-alternatives

2025-02-11 Thread Vincent Danjean
Le 10/02/2025 à 18:59, Russ Allbery a écrit : It's unfortunate that the commands have the same names in both Kerberos distributions, although it's understandable from a user UI perspective. I don't have a good solution. Either using alternatives or not using alternatives ru

Re: Heimdal Bugs re update-alternatives

2025-02-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Gabor Gombas writes: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 08:59:47AM +1100, Brian May wrote: >> Is it appropriate to use update-alternatives for kadmin that is supplied >> with {Heimdal,MIT} Kerberos? > ... in the real world, KDCs tend to be heavily locked down machines with > not muc

Re: Heimdal Bugs re update-alternatives

2025-02-10 Thread Gabor Gombas
cts: with heimdal-clients. Oh I see, this latter Conflicts: became versioned. Which is generally good, except... > Is it appropriate to use update-alternatives for kadmin that is supplied > with {Heimdal,MIT} Kerberos? ... in the real world, KDCs tend to be heavily locked down machines wit

Heimdal Bugs re update-alternatives

2025-02-09 Thread Brian May
Hello, Can I please have some thoughts on #1070031? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1070031 Is it appropriate to use update-alternatives for kadmin that is supplied with {Heimdal,MIT} Kerberos? I am thinking they do very different things but maybe not. i.e. one updates files

Bug#1077043: ITP: python-aiohttp-fast-zlib -- Accelerates aiohttp by replacing zlib with faster alternatives (isal or zlib-ng), improving performance, especially for websocket connections.

2024-07-25 Thread Josh Santos
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Josh Santos X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, josh@santos.cloud * Package name: python-aiohttp-fast-zlib Version : 0.1.1 Upstream Contact: J. Nick Koston * URL : https://github.com/bdraco/aiohttp-fast-zlib * License

Re: Deprecation of /etc/alternatives? (Re: Reaction to potential PGP schism)

2023-12-29 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, More metapackages will make transitions harder though, I believe we want to avoid that. In what way would transitions become harder? The alternatives system has "manual" and "automatic" modes for each group, these would probably correspond to "manually insta

Re: Deprecation of /etc/alternatives? (Re: Reaction to potential PGP schism)

2023-12-28 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 at 03:01, Simon Richter wrote: > > Hi, > > On 12/28/23 04:28, Luca Boccassi wrote: > > > if you want to activate a new alternative, you have to download a new > > package that provides it anyway, so there's no difference. Subsequent > > switches will use the cached package, and

Re: Deprecation of /etc/alternatives? (Re: Reaction to potential PGP schism)

2023-12-27 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 12/28/23 04:28, Luca Boccassi wrote: if you want to activate a new alternative, you have to download a new package that provides it anyway, so there's no difference. Subsequent switches will use the cached package, and if you have issues downloading a 3 kilobytes metapackage then just en

Re: Deprecation of /etc/alternatives? (Re: Reaction to potential PGP schism)

2023-12-27 Thread Hakan Bayındır
Metapackage approach is not the same for many reasons. First, I have seen Debian installations which doesn’t have internet access, but setup with many alternatives of the same application (e.g.: Java). Moreover, apt automatically purges its cache after a successful transaction. As I said

Re: Deprecation of /etc/alternatives? (Re: Reaction to potential PGP schism)

2023-12-27 Thread Luca Boccassi
nupg. Users (and scripts) are still free to install the > > And if you want to change it, you have to download and install a new > package (and remove another) instead of using a local command > (update-alternatives) that doesn’t need an internet connection? if you want to activate a new

Re: Deprecation of /etc/alternatives?

2023-12-25 Thread Teemu Likonen
* 2023-12-25 13:26:40+0100, ans...@43-1.org wrote: > On Mon, 2023-12-25 at 09:29 +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote: >> I hope not. For example, as a user it is nice to execute a single >> command (update-alternatives) to get a high priority alternative for >> "editor". I

Re: Deprecation of /etc/alternatives?

2023-12-25 Thread Ansgar
On Mon, 2023-12-25 at 09:29 +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote: > * 2023-12-23 15:34:49+0100, Gioele Barabucci wrote: > > While we are on the topic of alternatives, I hope to see the > > maintscript-based /etc/alternatives paradigm deprecated in favor of > > the package-based X-is-X p

Re: Deprecation of /etc/alternatives?

2023-12-24 Thread Teemu Likonen
* 2023-12-23 15:34:49+0100, Gioele Barabucci wrote: > While we are on the topic of alternatives, I hope to see the > maintscript-based /etc/alternatives paradigm deprecated in favor of > the package-based X-is-X paradigm introduced by `python-is-python3`. I hope not. For example, as a u

Re: Deprecation of /etc/alternatives? (Re: Reaction to potential PGP schism)

2023-12-24 Thread Hakan Bayındır
However, shoehorning X-is-X to apt for replacing alternatives is a very unoptimal (and even backwards) approach, because it’s not only for simple applications. Some of the daily alternatives I see are: - x-www-Browser - java (and the whole toolchain) - editor - vi - pager … The list goes on and

Re: Deprecation of /etc/alternatives? (Re: Reaction to potential PGP schism)

2023-12-24 Thread Stephan Seitz
, you have to download and install a new package (and remove another) instead of using a local command (update-alternatives) that doesn’t need an internet connection? Sorry, this is bullshit. -100. Stephan -- |If your life was a horse, you'd have to shoot it.|

Re: Deprecation of /etc/alternatives? (Re: Reaction to potential PGP schism)

2023-12-24 Thread Gioele Barabucci
On 24/12/23 08:54, Alastair McKinstry wrote: While we are on the topic of alternatives, I hope to see the maintscript-based /etc/alternatives paradigm deprecated in favor of the package-based X-is-X paradigm introduced by `python-is-python3`. They have different use-cases.  alternatives

Re: Deprecation of /etc/alternatives? (Re: Reaction to potential PGP schism)

2023-12-24 Thread Alastair McKinstry
On 23/12/2023 14:34, Gioele Barabucci wrote: On 22/12/23 00:40, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: If you're asking about using /etc/alternatives or something like that to provide some sort of generic swapping capability, or a dpkg Provides:, such that /usr/bin/gpg on some systems would point t

Re: Deprecation of /etc/alternatives? (Re: Reaction to potential PGP schism)

2023-12-23 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Sat, 23 Dec 2023 at 18:43, Gioele Barabucci wrote: > > On 22/12/23 00:40, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > > If you're asking about using /etc/alternatives or something like that to > > provide some sort of generic swapping capability, or a dpkg Provides:, > > s

Re: Deprecation of /etc/alternatives? (Re: Reaction to potential PGP schism)

2023-12-23 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 17086 March 1977, Gioele Barabucci wrote: While we are on the topic of alternatives, I hope to see the maintscript-based /etc/alternatives paradigm deprecated in favor of the package-based X-is-X paradigm introduced by `python-is-python3`. In this scenario gnupg will ship gpg as /usr/bin

Deprecation of /etc/alternatives? (Re: Reaction to potential PGP schism)

2023-12-23 Thread Gioele Barabucci
On 22/12/23 00:40, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: If you're asking about using /etc/alternatives or something like that to provide some sort of generic swapping capability, or a dpkg Provides:, such that /usr/bin/gpg on some systems would point toward the "chameleon", i would w

Re: /usr/bin/open now in use through the alternatives system.

2020-12-29 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
Josh Triplett writes: > Ignoring the server-provided MIME type and doing content-sniffing is a > historical bug that browsers such as IE have had, and that has caused > *many* problems (including security problems). > [...] Lots of good points. I had thankfully forgotten about how IE had its ow

Re: /usr/bin/open now in use through the alternatives system.

2020-12-28 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 01:22:16AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > I agree, an "open" program should ask to the server what the media type of the > URL is, and pass it to the default program able to handle it. I also wish it were that simple. -- cheers, Holger ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ hol

Re: /usr/bin/open now in use through the alternatives system.

2020-12-28 Thread Josh Triplett
Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: >>> Le Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 04:27:17AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : Since `eog http://example.com/image.png` will open the image, shouldn't an "open" program ask to the server what the media type of the URL is, and pass it to the default program able

Re: /usr/bin/open now in use through the alternatives system.

2020-12-28 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
Charles Plessy writes: > I went ahead and uploaded to Sid mime-support version 3.68, which > provides /usr/bin/open as a symbolic link to /usr/bin/run-mailcap > using the alternatives system, at a priority of 30. I welcome other > alternatives. This is good news. Thank you. :

Re: /usr/bin/open now in use through the alternatives system.

2020-12-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Dear Charles, thanks for driving this. On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 08:15:45AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > I went ahead and uploaded to Sid mime-support version 3.68, which > provides /usr/bin/open as a symbolic link to /usr/bin/run-mailcap using > the alternatives system, at a priority

/usr/bin/open now in use through the alternatives system.

2020-12-27 Thread Charles Plessy
[Please CC me, I am not subscribed] Dear all, I went ahead and uploaded to Sid mime-support version 3.68, which provides /usr/bin/open as a symbolic link to /usr/bin/run-mailcap using the alternatives system, at a priority of 30. I welcome other alternatives. I also changed the behaviour of

Bug#512717: marked as done (project: Should have alternatives for graphical su and sudo (x-su, x-sudo?))

2020-07-28 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:49:32 +0200 with message-id <3c01488b7eb950a27837934382bd1bab3b58096a.ca...@43-1.org> and subject line Re: project: Should have alternatives for graphical su and sudo (x-su, x-sudo?) has caused the Debian Bug report #512717, regarding project: Shoul

Bug#945070: ITP: puppet-module-voxpupuli-alternatives -- Puppet resource for managing Debian alternatives

2019-11-19 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: puppet-module-voxpupuli-alternatives Version : 3.0.0 Upstream Author : Voxpupuli * URL : https://github.com/voxpupuli/puppet-alternatives * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Python

Re: sbuild: do not fail when there are alternatives

2019-07-20 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On 2019-07-20 07:58, Johannes Schauer wrote: > No it does not block this. The sbuild configuration variable > $resolve_alternatives or the command line option --resolve-alternatives allows > one to enable or disable that sbuild only uses the first alternative. > > As Gregor also

Re: sbuild: do not fail when there are alternatives

2019-07-19 Thread Johannes Schauer
_ be blocking > a nice way to cope with libraries that are not available > on all architectures. No it does not block this. The sbuild configuration variable $resolve_alternatives or the command line option --resolve-alternatives allows one to enable or disable that sbuild only uses the first alt

sbuild: do not fail when there are alternatives

2019-07-19 Thread Geert Stappers
Package: sbuild Previous-Subject: Re: seccomp woes Original-To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 11:28:36PM -0300, gregor herrmann wrote: > On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 00:21:10 +0200, Christoph Biedl wrote: > > > * Centralize the list of supported archs in the seccomp packages. By

Re: Is multiple-layers of alternatives a good thing to users?

2019-02-04 Thread Mo Zhou
Hi Guus, On Mon, Feb 04, 2019 at 07:55:41AM +0100, Guus Sliepen wrote: > > libblis.so.2 libblis2 #MINVER# > > If the ABI and API are the same for all variants, a much better > solutions seems to me to have a single libblis2 that can switch at > runtime between the different variants, perhaps usi

Re: Is multiple-layers of alternatives a good thing to users?

2019-02-03 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Mon, Feb 04, 2019 at 06:07:55AM +, Mo Zhou wrote: > My updated version, all variants are co-installable now: > > Package: libblis2-openmp, Provides: libblas.so.3, libblis.so.2 > Package: libblis2-pthread, Provides: libblas.so.3, libblis.so.2 > Package: libblis2-serial, Provides: libbl

Re: Is multiple-layers of alternatives a good thing to users?

2019-02-03 Thread Mo Zhou
Hi Ian and Thibaut, Inspired by Thibaut's comment, I worked out a good solution for the co-installation problem, which only results in a single layer of alternatives. Thibaut's proposed layout: > Package: libblis2-openmp, Provides: libblas.so.3, libblis.so.2 > Package:

Re: Is multiple-layers of alternatives a good thing to users?

2019-02-03 Thread Ian Jackson
Mo Zhou writes ("Is multiple-layers of alternatives a good thing to users?"): > A user suggested[1] that the 6 variants[2] of BLIS should be > co-installable. However, making them co-installable would result in > multiple layers of alternatives in the update-alternatives system

Is multiple-layers of alternatives a good thing to users?

2019-01-31 Thread Mo Zhou
Hi devel, A user suggested[1] that the 6 variants[2] of BLIS should be co-installable. However, making them co-installable would result in multiple layers of alternatives in the update-alternatives system and will possibly confuse users, as discussed in [3]. I wrote this mail in case anyone has a

Re: Bug#915407: libpam-systemd: please add a virtual package "logind" to allow alternatives

2018-12-26 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Mon 24 Dec 2018 at 05:37pm -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: > I (not speaking for the whole team), have no objection to this patch. > However, it was pointed out to me that virtual packages require policy > updates[1], first starting as a debian-devel discussion. So I'm starting > this now

Re: Bug#915407: libpam-systemd: please add a virtual package "logind" to allow alternatives

2018-12-26 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Felipe Sateler Two minor typos. > The proposed virtual packages are: > > logind: a org.freedesktop.login1 D-Bus API implementation «an org…» > default-logind: should be provided by the distributions default logind > provider (currently pam-systemd) distribution's. Otherwise, this looks

Re: Bug#915407: libpam-systemd: please add a virtual package "logind" to allow alternatives

2018-12-25 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 05:37:56PM -0300, Felipe Sateler wrote: > On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 5:33 PM Adam Borowski wrote: > > Could you please either take this patch or propose a different approach? > > I have received no feedback other than a brief unconclusive remark on IRC. > > Sorry for the radi

Bug#915407: libpam-systemd: please add a virtual package "logind" to allow alternatives

2018-12-24 Thread Felipe Sateler
Hi, On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 5:33 PM Adam Borowski wrote: > Hi! > Could you please either take this patch or propose a different approach? > I have received no feedback other than a brief unconclusive remark on IRC. > Sorry for the radio silence. Let's try to remedy that. > The clock for Buste

Re: Kanboard and alternatives for mentoring

2018-02-22 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Daniel Pocock > Even if DSA didn't grant access to the instance you run now, would it be > considered easier for you to support extra, identical instances of RT > rather than supporting Kanboard or alternatives? That depends on what the alternatives are, but I think that&#x

Re: Kanboard and alternatives for mentoring

2018-02-22 Thread Daniel Pocock
and sign up for queues and such. > > (Speaking with a DSA hat, but not for all of DSA as we have yet to > discuss it.) > Even if DSA didn't grant access to the instance you run now, would it be considered easier for you to support extra, identical instances of RT rather than supporting Kanboard or alternatives? Regards, Daniel

Re: Kanboard and alternatives for mentoring

2018-02-21 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Daniel Pocock > Another possibility: DSA already run RT and there is a Kanban > extension[3] for it. I doubt we're interested in making the RT setup generally available for people to create and sign up for queues and such. (Speaking with a DSA hat, but not for all of DSA as we have yet to di

Re: Kanboard and alternatives for mentoring

2018-02-21 Thread Daniel Pocock
(please reply on debian-devel unless your reply is very specific to one of the other teams) Hi all, I wanted to share this discussion with the wider community as Kanboard has appeared in two different teams (DebConf and Outreach) and it also relates to (or potentially duplicates) the functionalit

Re: gitlab alternatives for a debian instance (was Re: manpages.debian.org has been modernized!)

2017-02-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, February 05, 2017 10:05:13 AM Pirate Praveen wrote: > On ഞായര്‍ 05 ഫെബ്രുവരി 2017 04:07 രാവിലെ, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > I'm getting deja vu, this has all been discussed already on -devel in > > recent months, please check the archives for further details, I'm fairly > > sure people a

Re: gitlab alternatives for a debian instance (was Re: manpages.debian.org has been modernized!)

2017-02-04 Thread Pirate Praveen
On ഞായര്‍ 05 ഫെബ്രുവരി 2017 04:07 രാവിലെ, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I'm getting deja vu, this has all been discussed already on -devel in > recent months, please check the archives for further details, I'm fairly > sure people are already working on this (Pirate Praveen was at least). Just for the

gitlab alternatives for a debian instance (was Re: manpages.debian.org has been modernized!)

2017-02-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Feb 04, 2017 at 02:14:20PM +0100, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: > I've noted the presence of gogs (https://gogs.io/) and pagure > (https://pagure.io/pagure), which look to be completely free projects, > but haven't tried any of them yet. https://rocketgit.com/op/doc/compare > has a compari

Bug#840361: ITP: fonts-pt-astra -- metric-compatible Times New Roman and Arial alternatives

2016-10-10 Thread Andrew Shadura
http://astralinux.com/ofl.html * License : OFL 1.1 Description : metric-compatible Times New Roman and Arial alternatives PT Astra Serif and PT Astra Sans are metric-compatible replacements for Times New Roman and Arial fonts. PT Astra family of fonts have been developed by ParaType

Re: Bug#757941: static linking: alternatives for glibc?

2014-10-21 Thread Aurelien Jarno
reassign 754813 libc6 reassign 757941 libc6 forcemerge 754813 757941 severity 754813 important retitle 754813 libc6 version 2.19 breaks NSS loading for static binaries forwarded 754813 https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=17250 tag 754813 + upstream thanks On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 09:58:

Re: Bug#757941: static linking: alternatives for glibc?

2014-10-07 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Julian Taylor: > this is already the case with regular static linking, you don't need LTO > to remove unused code, the compiler only uses those objects from that > archive that are required to resolve all symbols. > … remove _some_ unused code. Lots of code the linker pulls in from gcc will n

Re: Bug#757941: static linking: alternatives for glibc?

2014-10-07 Thread Julian Taylor
On 07.10.2014 08:07, Paul Wise wrote: > On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Michael Tokarev wrote: > >> apps becomes huge in size > > I wonder if LTO would help with the size issues, theoretically all the > code from the static glibc that isn't used by busybox-static would be > stripped out of the re

Re: Bug#757941: static linking: alternatives for glibc?

2014-10-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Michael Tokarev wrote: > apps becomes huge in size I wonder if LTO would help with the size issues, theoretically all the code from the static glibc that isn't used by busybox-static would be stripped out of the resulting binaries. -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debi

Re: Bug#757941: static linking: alternatives for glibc?

2014-10-06 Thread Michael Tokarev
07.10.2014 08:34, Steve Langasek wrote: [] >>> Was the removal of gethostby* APIs from the static glibc intentional? > >> Yes. It's the nsswitch problem. The behavior of those APIs is controlled >> by the nsswitch mechanism (specifically the hosts configuration), which is >> inherently dynamic a

Re: static linking: alternatives for glibc?

2014-10-06 Thread Steve Langasek
reassign 757941 src:glibc affects 757941 busybox-static thanks On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 07:32:17PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Paul Wise writes: > > On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 11:27 PM, Michael Tokarev wrote: > >> But with jessie, for one, all network name resolution (gethostby* etc > >> APIs) don't

Re: static linking: alternatives for glibc?

2014-10-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Paul Wise writes: > On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 11:27 PM, Michael Tokarev wrote: >> But with jessie, for one, all network name resolution (gethostby* etc >> APIs) don't work anymore, because glibc does not provide them instatic >> libraries. So usual network utilities in busybox does not anymore, >>

Re: static linking: alternatives for glibc?

2014-10-06 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 11:27 PM, Michael Tokarev wrote: > But with jessie, for one, all network name resolution (gethostby* etc APIs) > don't work anymore, because glibc does not provide them instatic libraries. > So usual network utilities in busybox does not anymore, they just return > `host not

static linking: alternatives for glibc?

2014-10-06 Thread Michael Tokarev
thinking about alternatives for glibc in this context. For busybox it should be easy on one hand, because it does not depend/use anything else, just libc and busybox itself; but difficult on another because busybox uses a wide range of libc functions (especially low-level kernel interfaces). So, I tried u

Re: llvm-defaults vs update alternatives

2014-06-24 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Sylvestre Ledru debian.org> writes: > > Build systems that ignore those environment variables are broken and > > need to be fixed. > > > Yes, but we have plenty of packages not honoring CC, CXX or CLFAGS. Yes, but I have a GCC patch (in MirBSD) that can make such builds fail, by adding a non-sta

Re: llvm-defaults vs update alternatives

2014-06-23 Thread Vincent Danjean
On 22/06/2014 11:47, Christian Hofstaedtler wrote: > update-alternatives gives the user a choice, My remark is not directly related to this problem (perhaps, in fact) but update-alternatives does *not* give the user a choice. It give the *admin* a choice. You must be root to run upd

Re: llvm-defaults vs update alternatives

2014-06-22 Thread Christian Hofstaedtler
lly, I manage 3 versions of LLVM in parallel (currently, 3.3, 3.4 & > snapshot). > > I saw various complains from users (example: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/991493 ) to switch to the > update-alternatives mechanism. This would allow a quick and global > switch fr

Re: llvm-defaults vs update alternatives

2014-06-21 Thread Sylvestre Ledru
On 21/06/2014 19:19, Paul Wise wrote: > On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Sylvestre Ledru wrote: > >> Any opinions on the subject? > There is already the CC (and CXX etc) environment variable to select > the compiler, they should use that. I am not talking about Clang but LLVM here. LLVM itself shi

Re: llvm-defaults vs update alternatives

2014-06-21 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Sylvestre Ledru wrote: > Any opinions on the subject? There is already the CC (and CXX etc) environment variable to select the compiler, they should use that. Build systems that ignore those environment variables are broken and need to be fixed. -- bye, pabs

Re: llvm-defaults vs update alternatives

2014-06-21 Thread Vincent Bernat
> Usually, I manage 3 versions of LLVM in parallel (currently, 3.3, 3.4 & > snapshot). > > I saw various complains from users (example: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/991493 ) to switch to the > update-alternatives mechanism. This would allow a quick and global > swit

llvm-defaults vs update alternatives

2014-06-21 Thread Sylvestre Ledru
, 3.3, 3.4 & snapshot). I saw various complains from users (example: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/991493 ) to switch to the update-alternatives mechanism. This would allow a quick and global switch from a LLVM version to another. I must admit that I am not sure what to do here. I see value

Bug#751675: ITP: libstring-print-perl -- module providing (s)printf alternatives

2014-06-15 Thread gregor herrmann
* License : Artistic or GPL-1+ Programming Lang: Perl Description : module providing (s)printf alternatives String::Print inserts values into (translated) strings. It provides printf() and sprintf() alternatives via both an object oriented and a functional interface. signature.asc

Re: Packages removing alternatives on upgrade

2012-10-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Ivan Shmakov writes: > ? How is the ‘if’ statement above different to, say: > case "$1" in > (remove) > update-alternatives --remove > ;; > esac It's not; what it *is* different from is the more common case construction, which

Re: Packages removing alternatives on upgrade

2012-10-07 Thread Ivan Shmakov
>>>>> Russ Allbery writes: […] > It's an improvement. Guillem makes a good argument that you should > drop deconfigure as well, which means that: > if [ "$1" = "remove" ] ; then > update-alternatives --remove > fi > is pro

Re: Packages removing alternatives on upgrade

2012-10-06 Thread Russ Allbery
~1~ 2012-09-23 13:34:49.0 + >> +++ debian/elvis-tools.prerm 2012-09-23 15:24:02.0 + >> @@ -3,7 +3,7 @@ >> set -e >> >> case "$1" in >> -upgrade|remove|deconfigure) >> +remove|deconfigure) >> up

Re: Packages removing alternatives on upgrade

2012-10-06 Thread tony mancill
On 09/23/2012 08:40 AM, Ivan Shmakov wrote: >>>>>> Jakub Wilk writes: > > [Cross-posting to packages@qa, for elvis is maintained by the QA > group.] > > > Many packages remove alternatives on upgrade, only to re-add them > > later, potenti

Re: Packages removing alternatives on upgrade

2012-09-23 Thread Ivan Shmakov
>>>>> Jakub Wilk writes: [Cross-posting to packages@qa, for elvis is maintained by the QA group.] > Many packages remove alternatives on upgrade, only to re-add them > later, potentially discarding manual choices of the user. > See also bug #71621.

Re: Packages removing alternatives on upgrade

2012-09-23 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 23 septembre 2012 à 13:49 +0200, Jakub Wilk a écrit : > Many packages remove alternatives on upgrade, only to re-add them later, > potentially discarding manual choices of the user. Thanks for the report. > Josselin Mouette >gedit (U) I’ve fixed i

Packages removing alternatives on upgrade

2012-09-23 Thread Jakub Wilk
Many packages remove alternatives on upgrade, only to re-add them later, potentially discarding manual choices of the user. See also bug #71621. -- Jakub Wilk Aaron M. Ucko ncbi-tools-x11 (U) Abou Al Montacir fp-compiler-2.6.0 (U) fp-ide-2.6.0 (U) fp-utils-2.6.0 (U) Adam

Re: mass bug filing against packages that don't remove alternatives

2012-03-22 Thread Andreas Beckmann
On 2012-02-23 21:59, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Andreas Beckmann , 2012-02-23, 21:49: >> I'm planning to file bugs against all packages that currently leave >> alternatives on the system after they were removed. Forgetting to >> remove alternatives usually leaves dangling

Re: mass bug filing against packages that don't remove alternatives

2012-02-23 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Andreas Beckmann , 2012-02-23, 21:49: I'm planning to file bugs against all packages that currently leave alternatives on the system after they were removed. Forgetting to remove alternatives usually leaves dangling symlinks on the system and in most cases these are dangling symlinks in

mass bug filing against packages that don't remove alternatives

2012-02-23 Thread Andreas Beckmann
Hi, I'm planning to file bugs against all packages that currently leave alternatives on the system after they were removed. Forgetting to remove alternatives usually leaves dangling symlinks on the system and in most cases these are dangling symlinks in /usr/bin At the moment there a

Re: Only forbid use of old alternatives to /run in wheezy+1?

2011-04-17 Thread Thomas Hood
> This is not to say we couldn't remove it on startup though. You should not remove /lib/init/rw on the next reboot. If the upgrade stops due to an error then the system might be rebooted before the upgrade is continued. /lib/init/rw needs to remain present until all packages using it have bee

Re: Only forbid use of old alternatives to /run in wheezy+1?

2011-04-17 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 07:44:55AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Edward Allcutt writes: > > > On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 05:58:19PM +0100, Edward Allcutt wrote: > >>> I suggest: > >>> - on upgrade, bind mount or symlink /run/init -> /lib/init/rw >

Re: Only forbid use of old alternatives to /run in wheezy+1?

2011-04-16 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Edward Allcutt writes: > On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 05:58:19PM +0100, Edward Allcutt wrote: >>> I suggest: >>> - on upgrade, bind mount or symlink /run/init -> /lib/init/rw >>> - on boot, after mounting /run, mkdir /run/init; ln -s /run/init >>> /lib/ini

Re: Only forbid use of old alternatives to /run in wheezy+1?

2011-04-16 Thread Edward Allcutt
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 05:58:19PM +0100, Edward Allcutt wrote: I suggest: - on upgrade, bind mount or symlink /run/init -> /lib/init/rw - on boot, after mounting /run, mkdir /run/init; ln -s /run/init /lib/init/rw Or in other words - exactly like we're

Re: Only forbid use of old alternatives to /run in wheezy+1?

2011-04-16 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 05:58:19PM +0100, Edward Allcutt wrote: > On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, rleigh wrote: > >We haven't made any plans to remove it yet. We'll look more closely > >at the best way to do that once all the users are moved over. Given > >the small number, it's quite likely this won't take

Re: Only forbid use of old alternatives to /run in wheezy+1?

2011-04-16 Thread Edward Allcutt
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, rleigh wrote: We haven't made any plans to remove it yet. We'll look more closely at the best way to do that once all the users are moved over. Given the small number, it's quite likely this won't take very long. If it turns out that there are other users of /lib/init/rw,

Re: Only forbid use of old alternatives to /run in wheezy+1?

2011-04-16 Thread rleigh
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 12:39:03PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: > While I applaud the introduction of /run, I have some concerns about > how quickly users of alternatives to /run could be required to switch > to the new location. > > Consider the following scenario. > > Package

Only forbid use of old alternatives to /run in wheezy+1?

2011-04-16 Thread Thomas Hood
While I applaud the introduction of /run, I have some concerns about how quickly users of alternatives to /run could be required to switch to the new location. Consider the following scenario. Package P is using /lib/init/rw. At some point the new version of initscripts is installed. The

Processed (with 1 errors): Re: Bug#348775: general: terminal emulators' alternatives settings' priorities annoy users

2010-11-25 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > clone 348775 -1 Bug#348775: general: terminal emulators' alternatives settings' priorities annoy users Bug 348775 cloned as bug 604959. > reassign -1 xdg-utils 1.0.2+cvs20100307-3 Bug #604959 [general] general: terminal emulato

Bug#348775: general: terminal emulators' alternatives settings' priorities annoy users

2010-11-25 Thread Jonathan Nieder
clone 348775 -1 reassign -1 xdg-utils 1.0.2+cvs20100307-3 retitle xdg-utils please introduce (sane) xdg-terminal tags -1 + upstream quit Paul Wise wrote: > In xdg-utils CVS there is an xdg-terminal script, not sure why that > isn't available in Debian yet: When no desktop is in use, it uses $TER

Bug#348775: general: terminal emulators' alternatives settings' priorities annoy users

2010-11-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > . unlike browsers with $BROWSER and desktop-specific settings, there >  is no standard, cross-distro way to make a user-specific choice of >  terminal ... > To solve (2): one could introduce a TERMINAL environment variable > analogous to M

Bug#348775: general: terminal emulators' alternatives settings' priorities annoy users

2010-11-24 Thread Jonathan Nieder
al > emulators is an adequate solution, hence I'm opening this "general" bug > for discussion on how to reflect individual users' choices properly. > > It has been suggested on #debian-devel that maybe creating a per-user > ~/bin with its own alternatives lin

Re: Bug#597571: nodejs: non common executable name (exclusive alternatives ?)

2010-09-22 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 01:32:21 +0200 Jérémy Lal wrote: > On 23/09/2010 01:24, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Jérémy Lal writes ("Re: Bug#597571: nodejs: non common executable > > name (exclusive alternatives ?)"): > >> On might object "node" would have a diffe

Re: Bug#597571: nodejs: non common executable name (exclusive alternatives ?)

2010-09-22 Thread Jérémy Lal
On 23/09/2010 01:24, Ian Jackson wrote: > Jérémy Lal writes ("Re: Bug#597571: nodejs: non common executable name > (exclusive alternatives ?)"): >> On might object "node" would have a different meaning, depending >> on the packages installed ; still, nodejs

Re: Bug#597571: nodejs: non common executable name (exclusive alternatives ?)

2010-09-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Jérémy Lal writes ("Re: Bug#597571: nodejs: non common executable name (exclusive alternatives ?)"): > On might object "node" would have a different meaning, depending > on the packages installed ; still, nodejs or x25node (if its maintainer > cares to follow) would

Re: Bug#597571: nodejs: non common executable name (exclusive alternatives ?)

2010-09-22 Thread Jérémy Lal
a postinst routine, common to both packages. On might object "node" would have a different meaning, depending on the packages installed ; still, nodejs or x25node (if its maintainer cares to follow) would be there, and unambiguous. Do that notion of "exclusive alternatives" is

Bug#595942: ITP: drupal6-mod-imagecache -- Makes different sized alternatives of the same images in Drupal

2010-09-07 Thread Al Nikolov
Description : Makes different sized alternatives of the same images in Drupal This module lets you make different sized alternatives of the same images. It requires an image manipulation library such as GD2 or ImageMagick and requires clean urls to be enabled. You can use imagecache with

Bug#585902: ITP: libhighscale-java -- high performance java collection alternatives

2010-06-14 Thread Eric Evans
: high performance java collection alternatives A collection of concurrent and highly scalable utilities. These are intended as direct replacements for the java.util.* or java.util.concurrent.* collections but with better performance when many CPUs are using the collection concurrently. Single-threaded

Re: Bug#534507: ITP: kalternatives -- graphical alternatives system configuration tool

2009-06-30 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 12:32:23 +0200, Pino Toscano wrote: > Few days ago, I had a nice talk with Guillem, and he told me that dpkg > developers are working for cleaning up update-alternatives' code, and > planning > to convert it to C (along with provide a dpkg library); s

Re: Bug#534507: ITP: kalternatives -- graphical alternatives system configuration tool

2009-06-30 Thread Pino Toscano
Hello, > I've skimmed over the sources, and it seems kalternatives is reading > and writting directly to the alternatives db (under > /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/). The db should be considered internal, > and we reserve the right to change its layout in the future. > > Ther

Re: Bug#534507: ITP: kalternatives -- graphical alternatives system configuration tool

2009-06-26 Thread Guillem Jover
e-apps.org/content/show.php/Kalternatives?content=16016 > * License : GPL > Programming Lang: C++ > Description : graphical alternatives system configuration tool > > Kalternatives offers a GUI to configure the alternative systems (a > system that allows you t

Bug#534507: ITP: kalternatives -- graphical alternatives system configuration tool

2009-06-24 Thread Pino Toscano
: graphical alternatives system configuration tool Kalternatives offers a GUI to configure the alternative systems (a system that allows you to select one alternative file for many in the filesystem). . This is an advanced GUI of the update-alternatives program shipped with dpkg. -- To

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