Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process

2018-04-13 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Chris, On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 09:26:07AM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > > I personally admit that getting no response to e-mails is more draining > > on the patience than waiting for getting a package acceptet. > > Perhaps so, but it doesn't quite help when your emails are regularly > bouncing (w

Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process

2018-04-13 Thread Chris Lamb
Dear Andreas, > I have learned that e-mails to ftp-master work way worse than IRC > via #debian-ftp. […] > I personally admit that getting no response to e-mails is more draining > on the patience than waiting for getting a package acceptet. Perhaps so, but it doesn't quite help when your emails

Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process

2018-04-12 Thread Lumin
Hi Holger, > you didnt mention which package of yours is stuck in NEW, could you > please elaborate? Else this seems like a rant out of the blue, without > much checking of facts, like Phil (Hands) thankfully provided. I was just afraid that things getting wrong seeing a large median number of ti

Re: Fw:Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process

2018-04-12 Thread Lumin
Hi Andreas, > The fact that the NEW queue is continuely growing is a sign that DDs are > continuosely motivated to fill it up. ;-) As Mattia said in his > response patience is a feature you learn as DD and it is not a bad > feature. Thank you and Mattia for pointing that out. And it would be be

Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process (completeed)

2018-04-11 Thread Chris Lamb
Ian Jackson wrote: > > However, after pointing this out to Chris Lamb and re- > > uploading the package another time he checked and accepted it in less > > then 24 hours (big thanks again). > > It strikes me that if there were comments in the ftpmaster database > suggestiong the package should be

Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process

2018-04-11 Thread Holger Levsen
Dear Lumin, you didnt mention which package of yours is stuck in NEW, could you please elaborate? Else this seems like a rant out of the blue, without much checking of facts, like Phil (Hands) thankfully provided. I also share wookey's observation that NEW is being processed more quickly than eve

Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process

2018-04-11 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 11/04/2018 17:00, Luke W Faraone wrote: > I reviewed the relevant conversation in #debian-ftp. I think if you > re-read it, the context makes it pretty clear that it was certainly not > "laughing off the request" — you said something along the lines of "my > destiny is sealed" and the response w

Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process

2018-04-11 Thread Luke W Faraone
On 11/04/18 16:12, Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) wrote:>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 07:08:21AM +, Lumin wrote: >>> I'm only a DM and I tried to apply for FTP assistant […] The 2010[1] and 2017[2] call for help both said that one needs to be a DD, unless one is solely helping with dak (which is n

Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process

2018-04-11 Thread Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
On 2018-04-11 16:04, Andreas Tille wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 07:08:21AM +, Lumin wrote: Briefly speaking, if a DD was told that "Thank you for your contribution to Debian but please wait for at least 2 months so that your package can enter the archive.", will the DD still be motivated

Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process

2018-04-11 Thread Andreas Tille
Dear Lumin, On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 07:08:21AM +, Lumin wrote: > Briefly speaking, if a DD was told that "Thank you for your contribution > to Debian but please wait for at least 2 months so that your package > can enter the archive.", will the DD still be motivated working on NEW > packages??

Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process (completeed)

2018-04-11 Thread Geert Stappers
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 01:21:10PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Gert Wollny writes ("Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process > (completeed)"): > > I might add that in case of the package I was talking about there vtk7, > > I got another reject because I u

Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process (completeed)

2018-04-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Gert Wollny writes ("Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process (completeed)"): > I might add that in case of the package I was talking about there vtk7, > I got another reject because I used the same version for the re- > upload, and after that long time it w

Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process (completeed)

2018-04-11 Thread Gert Wollny
Sorry, hit the wrong button and the email went out incomplete, if yo read the other mail you can skip to (--). Am Mittwoch, den 11.04.2018, 13:51 +0200 schrieb Gert Wollny: > Am Mittwoch, den 11.04.2018, 07:08 + schrieb Lumin: > > Hi folks, > > > > I'm sorry for repeating this topic in -deve

Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process

2018-04-11 Thread Gert Wollny
Am Mittwoch, den 11.04.2018, 07:08 + schrieb Lumin: > Hi folks, > > I'm sorry for repeating this topic in -devel without reading all the > followups in this thread [1] which seems to be dying. Is there > any conclusion in the thread[1] ? As the initator of this thread I'd like to chime in. My

Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process

2018-04-11 Thread Steve Cotton
>Looking at the oldest item in the queue (node-mimelib, 7 months), I see >that the upstream README[1] was changed on Mar 11th to read: > > NB! This project is deprecated > >All users of this project are urged to find an alternative as it is not >maintained anymore. > >Obviously, this is nothing to

Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process

2018-04-11 Thread Wookey
On 2018-04-11 10:54 +0200, Philip Hands wrote: > > If one excludes the node packages, the current state of NEW looks rather > good. It suggests[2] that the average wait for non-node packages is > about a fortnight. > > This is something for which I think we should be congratulating the > ftp-mas

Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process

2018-04-11 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 11:50:22AM +0200, Xavier wrote: > > If one excludes the node packages, the current state of NEW looks rather > > good. It suggests[2] that the average wait for non-node packages is > > about a fortnight. > Fortnight is the average of existing package in queue, not average t

Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process

2018-04-11 Thread Ian Campbell
On Wed, 2018-04-11 at 07:08 +, Lumin wrote: > [2] https://ftp-master.debian.org/stat/new-5years.png Does this graph show the length of the NEW queue over time or the numbers of packages passing through NEW over time? Ian.

Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process

2018-04-11 Thread Xavier
Le 11/04/2018 à 10:54, Philip Hands a écrit : > Andrey Rahmatullin writes: > >> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 07:08:21AM +, Lumin wrote: >>> Briefly speaking, if a DD was told that "Thank you for your contribution >>> to Debian but please wait for at least 2 months so that your package >>> can en

Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process

2018-04-11 Thread Paolo Greppi
Il 11/04/2018 09:44, Andrey Rahmatullin ha scritto: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 07:08:21AM +, Lumin wrote: >> Briefly speaking, if a DD was told that "Thank you for your contribution >> to Debian but please wait for at least 2 months so that your package >> can enter the archive.", will the DD st

Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process

2018-04-11 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:54:11AM +0200, Philip Hands wrote: > Andrey Rahmatullin writes: > > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 07:08:21AM +, Lumin wrote: > >> Briefly speaking, if a DD was told that "Thank you for your contribution > >> to Debian but please wait for at least 2 months so that your pack

Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process

2018-04-11 Thread Philip Hands
Andrey Rahmatullin writes: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 07:08:21AM +, Lumin wrote: >> Briefly speaking, if a DD was told that "Thank you for your contribution >> to Debian but please wait for at least 2 months so that your package >> can enter the archive.", will the DD still be motivated workin

Re: Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process

2018-04-11 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 07:08:21AM +, Lumin wrote: > Briefly speaking, if a DD was told that "Thank you for your contribution > to Debian but please wait for at least 2 months so that your package > can enter the archive.", will the DD still be motivated working on NEW > packages??? Please conv

Urging for solution to the slow NEW queue process

2018-04-11 Thread Lumin
Hi folks, I'm sorry for repeating this topic in -devel without reading all the followups in this thread [1] which seems to be dying. Is there any conclusion in the thread[1] ? Briefly speaking, if a DD was told that "Thank you for your contribution to Debian but please wait for at least 2 months