Re: Upcoming changes to supported architectures

2009-01-20 Thread Michael Banck
Dear archive admins, we have so far not received a reply or statement from you regarding the below post, or to the post by Steve Langasek with the message-id of 20080815052538.gw6...@dario.dodds.net. If we missed a reply, please let us know and repost it. for the Debian GNU/Hurd porters, Micha

Re: Upcoming changes to supported architectures

2008-10-05 Thread Michael Banck
Hi, first of all, we are a bit unsure about the intended timeline. Do you plan to remove architectures which fail to release for the next two releases (i.e. lenny and lenny+1), or will you impose this new policy retro-actively for the etch and lenny releases, i.e. kill off the ports on relatively

Re: Upcoming changes to supported architectures

2008-08-19 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 06:59:24PM +1000, Joshua Cummings wrote: > On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 11:32 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 05:25:38AM +, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > So the current architectures I see wishlist bugs for on ftp.d.o are s390x, > > > sh[34]{,eb}, netbsd

Re: Upcoming changes to supported architectures

2008-08-19 Thread Cyril Brulebois
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Re: Upcoming changes to supported architectures

2008-08-19 Thread Joshua Cummings
On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 11:32 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 05:25:38AM +, Steve Langasek wrote: > > So the current architectures I see wishlist bugs for on ftp.d.o are s390x, > > sh[34]{,eb}, netbsd-i386, and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64}. > > > > Which of these are currently i

Re: Upcoming changes to supported architectures

2008-08-15 Thread Michael Casadevall
Well, there was talk about implementing a Platform: field in dpkg to mark a package Linux, Kfreebsd, or Hurd specific without having to adding !kfreebsd-i386, etc. to the arch list or P-a-s. Not sure where that went (although I think dpkg now recognizes the field, which means quinn-diff and perhaps

Re: Upcoming changes to supported architectures

2008-08-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Michael Casadevall wrote > kfreebsd-* is pretty close to releasable; they've got the archive > built in the high 80s, and are keeping up). BTW, it may be worth noting that a bunch of packages still include headers: in the Failed part of hurd-i386, 178 packages out of 1320 fail at least because of

Re: Upcoming changes to supported architectures

2008-08-15 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11478 March 1977, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: >> > In the absence of an explanation why this change is needed, I suggest >> > "don't >> > change what's not broken" as a sane alternative. >> The fact that we currently have *no* guidelines at all is broken, so we fix >> it. > It would be nice, tho

Re: Upcoming changes to supported architectures

2008-08-15 Thread Loïc Minier
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008, Bastian Blank wrote: > There is some. IBM likes to add new op-codes to every processor release > and with a higher minimum supported type they can be used. They often > provide a speed benefit. Also the instruction format is identical > between the 31 and 64bit code. I would l

Re: Upcoming changes to supported architectures

2008-08-15 Thread Michael Casadevall
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a local mirror of m68k, and both kfreebsd ports, and they're roughly 70-80GB including source. If ries has become so full that space is becoming an issue, then dropping arm, hurd-i386, and m68k is a stopgap move at best (your only going to recov

Re: Upcoming changes to supported architectures

2008-08-15 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 06:45:30PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 09:59:01AM +0200, Ingo Juergensmann a écrit : > > I believe that changing the release scheme to not release the whole archive > > in one release but do some sort of subreleases (base, X, database, ...) is > >

Re: Upcoming changes to supported architectures

2008-08-15 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 09:59:01AM +0200, Ingo Juergensmann a écrit : > > I believe that changing the release scheme to not release the whole archive > in one release but do some sort of subreleases (base, X, database, ...) is > not going to be considered as "sane alternative"... ;) Hi Ingo Tha

Re: Upcoming changes to supported architectures

2008-08-15 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 05:25:38AM +, Steve Langasek wrote: > So the current architectures I see wishlist bugs for on ftp.d.o are s390x, > sh[34]{,eb}, netbsd-i386, and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64}. > > Which of these are currently in a more releasable state than hurd-i386? kfreebsd has a fully wo

Re: Upcoming changes to supported architectures

2008-08-15 Thread Bastian Blank
Why do I see a deja-vue? I think we had this already some years ago. On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:25:38PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > So the current architectures I see wishlist bugs for on ftp.d.o are s390x, > sh[34]{,eb}, netbsd-i386, and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64}. The sh* ports are not dead? I've

Re: Upcoming changes to supported architectures

2008-08-15 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:07:08AM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > pe, 2008-08-15 kello 09:59 +0200, Ingo Juergensmann kirjoitti: > > True. I would rather like to see the m68k porters to spend their time on > > real porting issues than on establishing the infrastructure that is needed > > because of

Re: Upcoming changes to supported architectures

2008-08-15 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 05:51:00AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > Is this a unanimous decision of the ftp team? You say that discussions were > > had at DebConf 8, but not all of the ftp team (or even all of the ftp > > masters) are present there... > I know that not all of us have been here. Wh

Re: Upcoming changes to supported architectures

2008-08-15 Thread Lars Wirzenius
pe, 2008-08-15 kello 09:59 +0200, Ingo Juergensmann kirjoitti: > True. I would rather like to see the m68k porters to spend their time on > real porting issues than on establishing the infrastructure that is needed > because of the immanent drop. It seems to me that _if_ the proposed change happe

Re: Upcoming changes to supported architectures

2008-08-15 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 05:56:33PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > If we aren't really running > into resource constraints linked to the architecture count, it's a poor use > of people's time to have to redeploy all of the ftp-master infrastructure on > a separate host. True. I would rather like t

Re: Upcoming changes to supported architectures

2008-08-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 05:51:00AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > I feel I'm missing the full rationale for this change. What are the new > > architectures in the pipe that space needs to be made for? > There are multiple bugs in the ftp.debian.org pseudopackage about > architectures wanting to

Re: Upcoming changes to supported architectures

2008-08-14 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11478 March 1977, Steve Langasek wrote: >> - If an architecture fails to be included in 2 successive official >>releases, it is moved out of the official archive (and away from the >>ftp-master.debian.org host). >> - We (as in ftpteam) are happy to help in any possible way in a mo

Re: Upcoming changes to supported architectures

2008-08-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 08:58:12PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > with the Lenny release upcoming we are thinking about larger changes to > the Debian archive, of which one point is "Clean up the supported > architecture list to free up space for new ones". > So we had a few discussions during Deb