More on nonfree firmware transitional packages (was: Firmware GR result - what happens next?)

2022-10-13 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
27;t we handle this via transitional firware* non-free packages, > > > > that depend on bookworm non-free-firmware packages? > > > > > > We'd need to add some transitional binary packages for the small > > > number of n-f-f source packages. That way people

Re: transitional packages? (was: Firmware GR result - what happens next?)

2022-10-03 Thread Shengjing Zhu
On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 11:32 PM Santiago Ruano Rincón wrote: > > Can we have different versions in each section? > > > > + non-free/pkgA version~1 > > + non-free-firmware/pkgA version~2 > > that wouldn't comply with the current policy: > https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-binary.html#the-

Re: transitional packages? (was: Firmware GR result - what happens next?)

2022-10-03 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 03/10/22 a las 19:40, Shengjing Zhu escribió: > On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 7:31 PM Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > > > 3 octobre 2022 11:11 "Santiago Ruano Rincón" a > > écrit: > > > El 02/10/22 a las 20:42, Michael Biebl escribió: > > >> Am 02.10.22 um 20:14 schrieb Luca Boccassi: > > >> On Sun,

Re: transitional packages? (was: Firmware GR result - what happens next?)

2022-10-03 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 03/10/22 a las 11:31, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud escribió: > 3 octobre 2022 11:11 "Santiago Ruano Rincón" a écrit: > > El 02/10/22 a las 20:42, Michael Biebl escribió: > >> Am 02.10.22 um 20:14 schrieb Luca Boccassi: > >> On Sun, 2022-10-02 at 10:52 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > >> In Bullseye we chan

Re: transitional packages? (was: Firmware GR result - what happens next?)

2022-10-03 Thread Shengjing Zhu
On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 7:31 PM Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > > 3 octobre 2022 11:11 "Santiago Ruano Rincón" a écrit: > > El 02/10/22 a las 20:42, Michael Biebl escribió: > >> Am 02.10.22 um 20:14 schrieb Luca Boccassi: > >> On Sun, 2022-10-02 at 10:52 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > >> In Bullseye w

Re: transitional packages? (was: Firmware GR result - what happens next?)

2022-10-03 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
3 octobre 2022 11:11 "Santiago Ruano Rincón" a écrit: > El 02/10/22 a las 20:42, Michael Biebl escribió: >> Am 02.10.22 um 20:14 schrieb Luca Boccassi: >> On Sun, 2022-10-02 at 10:52 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> In Bullseye we changed the name/syntax for the security repository, and >> for that a

transitional packages? (was: Firmware GR result - what happens next?)

2022-10-03 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 02/10/22 a las 20:42, Michael Biebl escribió: > > Am 02.10.22 um 20:14 schrieb Luca Boccassi: > > On Sun, 2022-10-02 at 10:52 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > > will > > > be very obvious.  But if you currently have non-free configured but > > > don't > > > add the new firmware section, everyt

Re: Transitional packages with conffiles

2011-03-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ian Jackson writes: > Goswin von Brederlow writes ("Transitional packages with conffiles"): >> Looking into the cause we discovered that the problem is that >> dhcp3-client is now a transitional package that pulls in >> isc-dhcp-client. The new package expect

Re: Transitional packages with conffiles

2011-03-16 Thread brian m. carlson
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 02:01:37PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Well surely the question is: why are the files moved to a different > directory ? Why is the package renamed, even ? Do we need to be able > to co-install the old and new ISC DHCP clients ?! The original dhcp-client was version 2. d

Re: Transitional packages with conffiles

2011-03-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Goswin von Brederlow writes ("Transitional packages with conffiles"): > Looking into the cause we discovered that the problem is that > dhcp3-client is now a transitional package that pulls in > isc-dhcp-client. The new package expects its config files in /etc/dhcp > while

Re: Transitional packages with conffiles

2011-03-15 Thread Ben Hutchings
ional package (which is supposedly 'safe' to do) the replacement package it depended on becomes a candidate for autoremove. Does apt do this? Is it even possible for it to recognise transitional packages, without some unreliable heuristics? Ben. -- Ben Hutchings We get into the habit o

Transitional packages with conffiles

2011-03-15 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
dhcp3-client is now a transitional package that pulls in isc-dhcp-client. The new package expects its config files in /etc/dhcp while the old had /etc/dhcp3/. The changes made to the old config no longer affect the new client. Which brings me to the subject of this mail: Transitional packages with

Transitional packages

2007-06-10 Thread Magnus Holmgren
When a binary package simply gets a new name (no splitting or merging involved), should there *always* remain a dummy/transitional package under the old name, or are there exceptions where the dummy package is considered to do more harm (littering, basically) than good, for example -doc packages

Re: Purging configurations of non-installed transitional packages

2006-11-09 Thread Brian May
> "SZALAY" == SZALAY Attila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: SZALAY> Okay, okay. Let's be more specific. openssh-client and SZALAY> openssh-server both Conflicts with ssh (<< 1:3.8.1p1-9) SZALAY> ntp package also Conflicts with ntp-server package. So I SZALAY> don't understand how

Re: Purging configurations of non-installed transitional packages

2006-11-09 Thread SZALAY Attila
Hi All, On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 18:00 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Yes, since Replaces can have two possible meanings. Please read the > Policy document for details. Okay, okay. Let's be more specific. openssh-client and openssh-server both Conflicts with ssh (<< 1:3.8.1p1-9) ntp package als

Re: Purging configurations of non-installed transitional packages

2006-11-09 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 12:45:34PM +0100, SZALAY Attila wrote: > Hi All! > > On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 00:05 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > > > > If the new package has a "Replaces: old_package", it will *take over* > > the conflicting config_files from the old package [1]. > > And there are Packages

Re: Purging configurations of non-installed transitional packages

2006-11-09 Thread SZALAY Attila
Hi All! On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 00:05 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > > If the new package has a "Replaces: old_package", it will *take over* > the conflicting config_files from the old package [1]. And there are Packages with Replaces field filled but Conflicts field not? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: Purging configurations of non-installed transitional packages

2006-11-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006, Michael Biebl wrote: > > If this two is true (and I think so) then you couldn't install the old > > ssh package and the new one. So how can you do this? > > If the new package has a "Replaces: old_package", it will *take over* > the conflicting config_files from the old packag

Re: Purging configurations of non-installed transitional packages

2006-11-08 Thread Michael Biebl
SZALAY Attila schrieb: > > 2) No two package can contain the same _installed_ file. > > If this two is true (and I think so) then you couldn't install the old > ssh package and the new one. So how can you do this? > If the new package has a "Replaces: old_package", it will *take over* the confl

Re: Purging configurations of non-installed transitional packages

2006-11-08 Thread SZALAY Attila
Hi All, On Tue, 2006-11-07 at 15:33 +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > What happened: Somehow, I seem to have transitioned from sarge ssh to > openssh-client/-server directly without first installing the 'ssh' > transitional package because I installed some package which depended on > openssh

Purging configurations of non-installed transitional packages

2006-11-07 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Yodel! Since I hate having tons of configuration files lying around from my various tests (and build-dep installing orgies), I do "dpkg -l | grep ^rc | cut -f 3 -d \ | xargs dpkg -P" every now and then. Actually, I first look at the list, and this proved very important here... What happened: