Re: To Linux or not to Linux

On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 08:29:03 +1000, Paul TBBle Hampson wrote: > Coming directly after "wrong list" possibly helped that, although > I didn't read it as such. My mistake, Wouter has explained and I'm more than happy now ;-) > Of course, now I'm posting... I disagree with Yavor that we should use

Re: To Linux or not to Linux

On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 11:55:23PM +0200, Wouter van Heyst wrote: > On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 04:05:25PM -0400, Joe Smith wrote: > >> I assume that by 'preching to the choir' Wouter meant: the people you are >> trying to convince already believe in what you are saying. >> I suspect that Yavor inte

Re: To Linux or not to Linux

On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 04:05:25PM -0400, Joe Smith wrote: > I assume that by 'preching to the choir' Wouter meant: the people you are > trying to convince already believe in what you are saying. > I suspect that Yavor interpeted this as: the people you are trying to > convince don't care. > >

Re: To Linux or not to Linux

On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 04:05:25PM -0400, Joe Smith wrote: > > >parse error. > > > >1. Yavor Doganov says something. > >2. Wouter Verhelst: Yeah. _We_ know. > >3. Yavor Doganov: Is suddenly "sad" that Wouter (seems to) agree(s). > > > >WTF? > > I assume that by 'preching to the choir' Wouter mean

Re: To Linux or not to Linux

parse error. 1. Yavor Doganov says something. 2. Wouter Verhelst: Yeah. _We_ know. 3. Yavor Doganov: Is suddenly "sad" that Wouter (seems to) agree(s). WTF? I assume that by 'preching to the choir' Wouter meant: the people you are trying to convince already believe in what you are saying.

Re: To Linux or not to Linux

On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 05:05:54AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 06:47:57PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > > Just to name one example, on , the > > paragraph "Debian GNU/Linux is a strong supporter of free software..." > > seems to clearly

Re: To Linux or not to Linux

I demand that Florian Weimer may or may not have written... > * Henning Makholm: >> In most places we already call our operating system simply "Debian". I >> think we should just go through the website (and CD generation scripts and >> such) and remove the few remaining references to "GNU/Linux".

Re: To Linux or not to Linux

On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 06:47:57PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > cites "Super Dooper Linux" as an > example of a name that requres payment of money. If there's any > difference in principle between using "Debian" as a first part and > using "Super Dooper", I

Re: To Linux or not to Linux

On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 06:47:57PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > There are many places on www.debian.org where "Debian GNU/Linux" is > used as a single proper noun. Those are what I am worried about. > > Just to name one example, on , the > paragraph "Debian GNU

Re: To Linux or not to Linux

On Wednesday 31 August 2005 17:29, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > That's why I don't care if we call our distribution Debian Linux, Debian > GNU/Linux, Debian GNU or Debian GNU/kFreeBSD (I mean, we provide the > usual GNU userland for it, right?) Another interesting point is that if we lambaste p

Re: To Linux or not to Linux

On Wednesday 31 August 2005 09:49, Yavor Doganov wrote: > On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 07:35:23 -0600, Wesley J. Landaker wrote: > > That and--it will make most of us cringle--when other kernels are > > popular, you'll hear lots of stuff like: > > The reason for calling it GNU (ok, GNU/Linux as the the othe

Re: To Linux or not to Linux

Yavor Doganov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 07:35:23 -0600, Wesley J. Landaker wrote: >> That and--it will make most of us cringle--when other kernels are popular, >> you'll hear lots of stuff like: > The reason for calling it GNU (ok, GNU/Linux as the the other ports are > not

Re: To Linux or not to Linux

* Henning Makholm: > In most places we already call our operating system simply "Debian". I > think we should just go through the website (and CD generation scripts > and such) and remove the few remaining references to "GNU/Linux". We'd also have to rename packages that use the term "Linux" in a

Re: To Linux or not to Linux

* Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And you're also preaching to the choir, mostly. A well known fact to me, sorry for this, but I consider it important. As you're my personal hero (I have a Mac Quadra), now I know your attitude, which makes me sad. -- With respect, Yavor -- To U

Re: To Linux or not to Linux

Scripsit Anthony Towns > This only applies to folks who have to purchase licenses; if you simply > use the word descriptively, as in "I'm a Linux consultant", you don't > have to pay anything. I'm not sure if "Debian GNU/Linux" was specifically > given as an example of a "descriptive" use (I vagu

Re: To Linux or not to Linux

On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 06:49:20PM +0300, Yavor Doganov wrote: > (I know, this is the wrong list). Yes. And you're also preaching to the choir, mostly. -- The amount of time between slipping on the peel and landing on the pavement is precisely one bananosecond -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMA

Re: To Linux or not to Linux

On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 03:27:53PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > The "Linux" trademark, which used to be owned by Linus personally, has > apparently been transferred to "the Linux Mark Institute" It's still owned by Linus personally; he palms of management of it to the LMI, and has done pretty m

To Linux or not to Linux

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 07:35:23 -0600, Wesley J. Landaker wrote: > That and--it will make most of us cringle--when other kernels are popular, > you'll hear lots of stuff like: The reason for calling it GNU (ok, GNU/Linux as the the other ports are not yet in a releasable state) is to enable people

Re: To Linux or not to Linux

Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In most places we already call our operating system simply "Debian". I > think we should just go through the website (and CD generation scripts > and such) and remove the few remaining references to "GNU/Linux". This is an annoying problem for us, in m

To Linux or not to Linux

Scripsit "Steinar H. Gunderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 01:46:54PM +0300, Yavor Doganov wrote: >> now we can call it simply GNU (given the fact that both hurd and >> kfreebsd-gnu are rocking and under active development). "Linux >> distribution" is just wrong (and rather anno