Re: The future of m-a and dkms

2011-02-19 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 00:13:07 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: >On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 00:44 +0100, Iustin Pop wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 02:43:23PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: >> > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:19:37PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: >[...] >> > > With m-a it was and is possible to creat

Re: The future of m-a and dkms

2011-02-16 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 16 février 2011 à 00:13 +, Ben Hutchings a écrit : > On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 00:44 +0100, Iustin Pop wrote: > > As others have said in this thread (and from my experience too), you > > can't use dkms mkdeb to build and install separate packages for two > > kernel versions but same mo

Re: The future of m-a and dkms

2011-02-15 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 00:44 +0100, Iustin Pop wrote: > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 02:43:23PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:19:37PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: [...] > > > With m-a it was and is possible to create nice debian packages for > > > custom modules which can be in

Re: The future of m-a and dkms

2011-02-15 Thread Iustin Pop
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 02:43:23PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:19:37PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Am So den 13. Feb 2011 um 23:21 schrieb Patrick Matthäi: > > > since we have got a stable release with dkms now, I am asking myself, if > > > it is stil

Re: The future of m-a and dkms

2011-02-14 Thread Vsevolod Velichko
2011/2/14 Marc Haber : > That would be an acceptable workaround. Is there any way to prevent > dkms from trying to build modules for the currently running kernel > when module sources are installed (which is bound to fail in my build > chroot)? As far as I can see, it wouldn't be a problem. Patric

Re: The future of m-a and dkms

2011-02-14 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Am 14.02.2011 17:04, schrieb Marc Haber: On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:43:23 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:19:37PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: Am So den 13. Feb 2011 um 23:21 schrieb Patrick Matthäi: since we have got a stable release with dkms now, I am asking myself, if it

Re: The future of m-a and dkms

2011-02-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 00:12:48 +0100, Iustin Pop wrote: >With my sysadmin hat on, compilation on servers is a *very* big no-no, >so if mkdeb doesn't work or if it doesn't provide nice modules, then m-a >should stay in. +1 Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy cop

Re: The future of m-a and dkms

2011-02-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 14:43:23 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: >On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:19:37PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: >> Am So den 13. Feb 2011 um 23:21 schrieb Patrick Matthäi: >> > since we have got a stable release with dkms now, I am asking myself, if >> > it is still necessary to support mo

Re: The future of m-a and dkms

2011-02-14 Thread The Fungi
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 08:29:38AM +0100, Hendrik Sattler wrote: [...] > It's like having to install a package with "pear" because horde > upgrade scripts once again requires a module that is not packaged > in Debian (which was the case for Lenny and is also the case for > Squeeze :-( ). Can those

Re: The future of m-a and dkms

2011-02-14 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:19:37PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > Hello, > > Am So den 13. Feb 2011 um 23:21 schrieb Patrick Matthäi: > > since we have got a stable release with dkms now, I am asking myself, if > > it is still necessary to support module-assistant. > > dkms is IMHO the better system

Re: The future of m-a and dkms

2011-02-14 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello, Am So den 13. Feb 2011 um 23:21 schrieb Patrick Matthäi: > since we have got a stable release with dkms now, I am asking myself, if > it is still necessary to support module-assistant. > dkms is IMHO the better system and maintaining two diff

Re: The future of m-a and dkms

2011-02-14 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 06:00:10PM -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote: > On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 23:52:22 +0100 Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > > > On Sun, 2011-02-13 at 23:21 +0100, Patrick Matthäi wrote: > > > since we have got a stable release with dkms now, I am asking myself, if > > > it is still nec

Re: The future of m-a and dkms

2011-02-14 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 14 février 2011 à 00:12 +0100, Iustin Pop a écrit : > With my sysadmin hat on, compilation on servers is a *very* big no-no, > so if mkdeb doesn't work or if it doesn't provide nice modules, then m-a > should stay in. Regardless, there should be a way to provide the modules without insta

Re: The future of m-a and dkms

2011-02-14 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Zitat von Patrick Matthäi : I know that right now, when backporting stuff at work, we have to drop the DKMS stuff and write our own packaging since DKMS doesn't play nicely with multiple kernel versions, embedding the kernel *and* package version in the final module version, etc. Things might hav

Re: The future of m-a and dkms

2011-02-13 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Am 14.02.2011 00:12, schrieb Iustin Pop: > On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 06:00:10PM -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote: >> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 23:52:22 +0100 Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 2011-02-13 at 23:21 +0100, Patrick Matthäi wrote: since we have got a stable release with dkms now, I

Re: The future of m-a and dkms

2011-02-13 Thread Iustin Pop
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 06:00:10PM -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote: > On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 23:52:22 +0100 Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > > > On Sun, 2011-02-13 at 23:21 +0100, Patrick Matthäi wrote: > > > since we have got a stable release with dkms now, I am asking myself, if > > > it is still nec

Re: The future of m-a and dkms

2011-02-13 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 23:52:22 +0100 Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > On Sun, 2011-02-13 at 23:21 +0100, Patrick Matthäi wrote: > > since we have got a stable release with dkms now, I am asking myself, if > > it is still necessary to support module-assistant. > > dkms is IMHO the better system and

Re: The future of m-a and dkms

2011-02-13 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Am 13.02.2011 23:52, schrieb Christoph Anton Mitterer: > On Sun, 2011-02-13 at 23:21 +0100, Patrick Matthäi wrote: >> since we have got a stable release with dkms now, I am asking myself, if >> it is still necessary to support module-assistant. >> dkms is IMHO the better system and maintaining two

Re: The future of m-a and dkms

2011-02-13 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Sun, 2011-02-13 at 23:21 +0100, Patrick Matthäi wrote: > since we have got a stable release with dkms now, I am asking myself, if > it is still necessary to support module-assistant. > dkms is IMHO the better system and maintaining two different systems for > kernel modules is a bit bloated. Wit

Re: The future of m-a and dkms

2011-02-13 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Am 13.02.2011 23:39, schrieb Cyril Brulebois: > That said, I'm no longer interested in maintaining m-a (lack of time > is one thing, lack of interest is another, “upstream first” yet > another). Putting my fglrx maintainer hat on, I am also no longer interested in supporting m-a, putting my server

Re: The future of m-a and dkms

2011-02-13 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Patrick Matthäi (13/02/2011): > since we have got a stable release with dkms now, I am asking > myself, if it is still necessary to support module-assistant. > > dkms is IMHO the better system and maintaining two different systems > for kernel modules is a bit bloated. > > I think there should b

The future of m-a and dkms

2011-02-13 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Hello folk, since we have got a stable release with dkms now, I am asking myself, if it is still necessary to support module-assistant. dkms is IMHO the better system and maintaining two different systems for kernel modules is a bit bloated. I think there should be a decission for wheezy, how we