Re: Supporting tier-2 (was Re: COUNT(buildd) IN (2,3))

2005-03-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 11:48:53 +1100, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I've seen no hesitation inducting new AMs, and I got solicited to be part of >the security team a couple of years ago which suggests that they're not >particularly picky about who they let in . A couple of years ago, we

Re: Supporting tier-2 (was Re: COUNT(buildd) IN (2,3))

2005-03-14 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 07:26:58PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:18:54 -0500, David Nusinow > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 05:57:05PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > >> Reasonable security support requires some degree of cooperation with the > >> current

Re: Supporting tier-2 (was Re: COUNT(buildd) IN (2,3))

2005-03-14 Thread Matthew Garrett
David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 05:57:05PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> Reasonable security support requires some degree of cooperation with the >> current security team. Without that, vulnerabilities notifications won't >> be available. > > Why can't porters

Re: Supporting tier-2 (was Re: COUNT(buildd) IN (2,3))

2005-03-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:54:34 +0100, David Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Monday 14 March 2005 17:39, Frank Küster wrote: >> No testing, no release, no security support. For me, that is so close >> to "not support at all" that I hardly see the difference. > >No testing and release support b

Re: Supporting tier-2 (was Re: COUNT(buildd) IN (2,3))

2005-03-14 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 13:18:54 -0500, David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 05:57:05PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> Reasonable security support requires some degree of cooperation with the >> current security team. Without that, vulnerabilities notifications won't >> b

Re: Supporting tier-2 (was Re: COUNT(buildd) IN (2,3))

2005-03-14 Thread David Schmitt
On Monday 14 March 2005 19:18, David Nusinow wrote: > On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 05:57:05PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > Reasonable security support requires some degree of cooperation with the > > current security team. Without that, vulnerabilities notifications won't > > be available. > > Why

Re: Supporting tier-2 (was Re: COUNT(buildd) IN (2,3))

2005-03-14 Thread David Nusinow
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 05:57:05PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Reasonable security support requires some degree of cooperation with the > current security team. Without that, vulnerabilities notifications won't > be available. Why can't porters join the security team? Then everyone benefits.

Re: Supporting tier-2 (was Re: COUNT(buildd) IN (2,3))

2005-03-14 Thread Matthew Garrett
David Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 14 March 2005 17:39, Frank Küster wrote: >> No testing, no release, no security support. For me, that is so close >> to "not support at all" that I hardly see the difference. > > No testing and release support by the current RMs and no security

Supporting tier-2 (was Re: COUNT(buildd) IN (2,3))

2005-03-14 Thread David Schmitt
On Monday 14 March 2005 17:39, Frank Küster wrote: > David Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > On Monday 14 March 2005 16:27, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > >> Not when the alternate choice is to not have Debian support $ARCH at > >> all. > > > > Please cite where this was proposed. I read the orig