Le dimanche 27 août 2006 à 19:12 +0200, Adeodato Simó a écrit :
> bzrtools > 0.9 does not put files under /usr/lib/python2.4, since it
> uses python-support; and its maintainer scripts for < 0.9 did not
> bytecompile the modules, so the most plausible explanation for .pyc
> files in /usr/lib/python
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> * Brian May [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:22:55 +1000]:
>
> > Adeodate> Also, do you remember having root
> > Adeodato> bzr as root?
>
> > Huh?
>
> Sorry, that should have read: "do you remember having *run* bzr as root".
> It's the most likely cause fo
> "Adeodato" == Adeodato <"=?utf-8?B?U2ltw7M=?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> writes:
Adeodato> Sorry, that should have read: "do you remember having
Adeodato> *run* bzr as root". It's the most likely cause for
Adeodato> those .pyc files to be there, since bzrtools did not.
No -
* Brian May [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:22:55 +1000]:
> Adeodate> Also, do you remember having root
> Adeodato> bzr as root?
> Huh?
Sorry, that should have read: "do you remember having *run* bzr as root".
It's the most likely cause for those .pyc files to be there, since
bzrtools did not.
Tha
> "Adeodato" == Adeodato <"=?utf-8?B?U2ltw7M=?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> writes:
Adeodato> Hm. I'd say that you have .pyc files left in:
Adeodato>
Adeodato> /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/bzrlib/plugins/bzrtools
Adeodato> Can you check, please?
Yes, see below.
Ad
Version: 0.9-1
* Brian May [Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:43:24 +1000]:
> Robert> Could you please run 'bzr upgrade' while using bzr
> Robert> 0.9rc1. If my guess at your situation is right this will
> Robert> take a while to run, but correct your performance issues.
> >> Did I do somethin
> "Adeodato" == Adeodato <"=?utf-8?B?U2ltw7M=?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> writes:
Robert> Could you please run 'bzr upgrade' while using bzr
Robert> 0.9rc1. If my guess at your situation is right this will
Robert> take a while to run, but correct your performance issues.
>
* Brian May [Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:53:01 +1000]:
> > "Robert" == Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Robert> On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 12:01 +1000, Brian May wrote:
> >> Curiously though, the problems continue even after the archive
> >> appears to be converted successfully - i
> "Robert" == Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Robert> On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 12:01 +1000, Brian May wrote:
>> Curiously though, the problems continue even after the archive
>> appears to be converted successfully - if I do a diff
>> operation, it reports all files as
On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 10:28:58PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Aug 2006, David Nusinow wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 11:56:44PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> > > * David Nusinow [Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:37:23 +]:
> > >
> > > > (I'm seriously
> > > > interested in setting up git
On Sat, 2006-08-12 at 15:59 +1000, Brian May wrote:
> > "Robert" == Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Robert> On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 12:01 +1000, Brian May wrote:
> >> Curiously though, the problems continue even after the archive
> >> appears to be converted successfu
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006, David Nusinow wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 11:56:44PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> > * David Nusinow [Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:37:23 +]:
> >
> > > (I'm seriously
> > > interested in setting up git.debian.org for XSF work, for example*),
> >
> > > * If anyone else is inter
la, 2006-08-12 kello 15:59 +1000, Brian May kirjoitti:
> Are there any Debian packages of 0.9rc1 available?
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/bzr says 0.9~rc1-1.
(Lookup time: about ten seconds. :)
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> "Robert" == Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Robert> On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 12:01 +1000, Brian May wrote:
>> Curiously though, the problems continue even after the archive
>> appears to be converted successfully - if I do a diff
>> operation, it reports all files as
Toni Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 31.07.2006 at 14:54:50 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL
> PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> With cdbs as negative and alitoh/svn as positive?
>
> what are your problems with CDBS?
>
>
> Best,
> --Toni++
Lets just have a short comment. For more se
On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 11:02:15AM +0200, Toni Mueller wrote:
> On Mon, 07.08.2006 at 12:52:26 +0100, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > also sprach Toni Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.07.1126 +0100]:
> > > what are your problems with CDBS?
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-de
Hi,
On Mon, 07.08.2006 at 12:52:26 +0100, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> also sprach Toni Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.07.1126 +0100]:
> > what are your problems with CDBS?
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/06/msg00451.html
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/20
also sprach Toni Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.07.1126 +0100]:
> what are your problems with CDBS?
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/06/msg00451.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/06/msg00467.html
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On Mon, 31.07.2006 at 14:54:50 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> With cdbs as negative and alitoh/svn as positive?
what are your problems with CDBS?
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On Sun, 2006-08-06 at 12:01 +1000, Brian May wrote:
>
> Curiously though, the problems continue even after the archive appears
> to be converted successfully - if I do a diff operation, it reports
> all files as deleted, but if I try to revert it, it slows to a
> grinding halt.
Could you please
> "Robert" == Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Robert> Its likely to be a different bug - the conversion approach
Robert> used for svn/baz is very different. That said, conversion
Robert> from $any system is going to use more memory than native
Robert> bzr operations,
On Sat, 2006-08-05 at 10:58 +1000, Brian May wrote:
> > "Robert" == Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Robert> Are you doing conversions from SVN? Current bzr uses 20MB
> Robert> of ram to do a native branch operation in similar
> Robert> circumstances. (bug report gets
> "Robert" == Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Robert> Are you doing conversions from SVN? Current bzr uses 20MB
Robert> of ram to do a native branch operation in similar
Robert> circumstances. (bug report gets fixed, new at 11 :)).
No, this was a conversion from baz. Mi
* martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060801 18:17]:
> also sprach Bernhard R. Link <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1701 +0100]:
> > Missing $(DESTDIR)s in Makefiles are an example. Especially when the
> > install part was DESTDIRified, but the test before if the file is
> > already there (as make
On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 09:56 +1000, Brian May wrote:
> For documentation on checkouts and bound branches, see
>
> http://bazaar-vcs.org/CheckoutTutorial
>
> http://bazaar-vcs.org/BzrUsingBoundBranches
>
> However, I am not convinced the following paragraph in the first
> page is correct:
>
> "
> "Adeodato" == Adeodato <"=?utf-8?B?U2ltw7M=?=" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> writes:
Adeodato> But if you have a set of equal developers, bzr can be
Adeodato> also used in a very similar way to Subversion, where all
Adeodato> commits go to a central repository, and nobody has to
Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 08:27 -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
>> Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > bzr is also working on a high performance server at the moment, which
>> > will operate over either a socketpair - i.e. tunnelling via ssh (
On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 08:27 -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > bzr is also working on a high performance server at the moment, which
> > will operate over either a socketpair - i.e. tunnelling via ssh (which
> > can still be done without granting shell
Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> bzr is also working on a high performance server at the moment, which
> will operate over either a socketpair - i.e. tunnelling via ssh (which
> can still be done without granting shell access), or over plain http via
> an apache rewrite rule.
Is it al
On Wed, 2006-08-02 at 22:29 +0200, Christoph Haas wrote:
>
> That's in fact an issue that made me feel sceptical about bzr, darcs
> and
> mercury. All of them require a shell account or some scripting through
> a
> special mail address to commit changes. And it's not only the recent
> kernel vu
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 11:56:44PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> * David Nusinow [Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:37:23 +]:
>
> > (I'm seriously
> > interested in setting up git.debian.org for XSF work, for example*),
>
> > * If anyone else is interested in this, contact me and we'll talk
>
> There is _
* David Nusinow [Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:37:23 +]:
> (I'm seriously
> interested in setting up git.debian.org for XSF work, for example*),
> * If anyone else is interested in this, contact me and we'll talk
There is _something_ in costa:/srv/git.debian.org/git already.
Cheers,
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On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 12:44:19PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.0005 +0100]:
> > Subversion, in conjunction with alioth, has risen dramatically in
> > Debian to accomodate team-based maintainance. There are of course
> > plenty of challen
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 03:08:06PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
>
> > On Aug 01, David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Also, pbuilder and debootstrap are considered absolutely critical for
> >> serious work.
> > That's a bold statement.
Adeodato Simó, 2006-08-02 21:20:09 +0200 :
>> > % bzr push sftp://costa.debian.org/bzr/pkg-xiph/vorbis-tools
[...]
> Ask in #alioth. Note, however, that TTBOMK still does not offer HTTP
> access, so if you want that, better stick to htdocs for a while.
>
> I hope to be able to bribe buxy to pr
On Wednesday 02 August 2006 21:44, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > * Otavio Salvador [Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:43:56 -0300]:
> >> Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> > Then each developer can prepare a set of changes offline, do all
> >> > the branching,
Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> * Otavio Salvador [Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:43:56 -0300]:
>
>> Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> > Then each developer can prepare a set of changes offline, do all the
>> > branching, merging, commiting and uncommiting (gotta love that) that
>> >
* Otavio Salvador [Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:43:56 -0300]:
> Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Then each developer can prepare a set of changes offline, do all the
> > branching, merging, commiting and uncommiting (gotta love that) that
> > they want, and when they're done, do e.g.:
> >
also sprach Thijs Kinkhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.02.1020 +0100]:
> > This shouldn't need snapshot.debian.net, right?
>
> If the bug is claimed to be fixed in the changelog of 2.0-5 and the
> current sid version is 2.0-7, I don't know another way to see the diff
> between 2.0-4 and 2.0-5, s
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 20:57 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> > I'm using it when porting security fixes to sarge. If the maintainer has
> > fixed a security bug in sid, I download that version and the version
> > before and can see right away what exactly he changed to fix the bug.
>
> This shouldn
Hi,
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 03:31:26PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Pierre Machard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1501 +0100]:
> > snapshot.debian.net (still not-official but very usefull)
>
> This is very interesting, especially in the light of version control
> for packaging --
Stuff deleted
>
> I have cdebootstrap do create chroots, dchroot to use them,
> buildd/sbuild to test compile under true buildd conditions. Why would
> I want something else?
>
I'm not sure I know, but now that I know about this pair, I will certainly look
into it. After that, if I can answer yo
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 19:44 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1936 +0100]:
> > Forgot to add that it can be even _identical_ to subversion, in the
> > sense that you don't have to commit locally, and then push. Just make a
> > "checkout" (refe
also sprach Thijs Kinkhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1537 +0100]:
> > Could you give me some insights, please, into how snapshot.d.n is
> > useful? Don't get me wrong, I also find it useful, but mostly from
> > the administrator perspective, I've not really used it as
> > a developer.
>
>
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 03:31:26PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> Could you give me some insights, please, into how snapshot.d.n is
> useful? Don't get me wrong, I also find it useful, but mostly from
> the administrator perspective, I've not really used it as
> a developer.
Testing of various up
Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Then each developer can prepare a set of changes offline, do all the
> branching, merging, commiting and uncommiting (gotta love that) that
> they want, and when they're done, do e.g.:
>
> % bzr push sftp://costa.debian.org/bzr/pkg-xiph/vorbis-tools
W
also sprach Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1936 +0100]:
> Forgot to add that it can be even _identical_ to subversion, in the
> sense that you don't have to commit locally, and then push. Just make a
> "checkout" (refer to the bzr docs), and every commit you make will go to
> the mai
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 07:19:19PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> Yes, and I wanted to know why he thought that is the case. I believe
> Christoph has given a good account of the reasons. If you have
> anything to add, please do!
There's also the fact that well known teams like the installer and
* Adeodato Simó [Tue, 01 Aug 2006 20:31:37 +0200]:
> they want, and when they're done, do e.g.:
> % bzr push sftp://costa.debian.org/bzr/pkg-xiph/vorbis-tools
Forgot to add that it can be even _identical_ to subversion, in the
sense that you don't have to commit locally, and then push. Just ma
* Christoph Haas [Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:33:15 +0200]:
Hi,
> No offense intended - honestly - but the problem of passing
> patches/patchsets around between the maintainers is really a problem. In
> Subversion I know where the authoritative instance lies that is the master
> instance keeping the c
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> also sprach Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1907 +0100]:
[...]
>> I assumed he meant it in the sense that more teams seem to be
>> using subversion on alioth than any other RCS.
[...]
> Yes, and I wanted to know why he thought that is the case.
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> also sprach Pierre Machard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1501 +0100]:
>> snapshot.debian.net (still not-official but very usefull
> This is very interesting, especially in the light of version control
> for packaging -- which could also make packages
also sprach Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1907 +0100]:
> > I'd be interested in your thoughts as to why subversion beats them
> > all, in your perception.
>
> I assumed he meant it in the sense that more teams seem to be
> using subversion on alioth than any other RCS. Ie, compare
> th
martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.0005 +0100]:
> > Subversion, in conjunction with alioth, has risen dramatically in
> > Debian to accomodate team-based maintainance. There are of course
> > plenty of challengers, but subversion seems to beat them al
also sprach Otavio Salvador <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1804 +0100]:
> > FYI: http://bazaar-vcs.org/BzrForeignBranches/Subversion
>
> Have you tryed it?
Not productively.
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martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Thanks, Christoph, I think you argued a good case!
>
>> I'll probably use bzr when I need to keep something revisioned
>> without much fuss just to save the time for "svnadmin create" and
>> a DAV share on my Apache. But for everything else I think I'l
"Goswin von Brederlow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
On Aug 01, David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Also, pbuilder and debootstrap are considered absolutely critical for
serious work.
That's a bold statement.
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also sprach Bernhard R. Link <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1701 +0100]:
> Missing $(DESTDIR)s in Makefiles are an example. Especially when the
> install part was DESTDIRified, but the test before if the file is
> already there (as make install does not want to overwrite a config file)
> was forgo
* martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060801 15:29]:
> also sprach Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1221 +0100]:
> > Building in chroots *hides* bugs.
>
> Uh, what? Please give an example.
Missing $(DESTDIR)s in Makefiles are an example. Especially when the
install part was DESTDIRif
Thanks, Christoph, I think you argued a good case!
> I'll probably use bzr when I need to keep something revisioned
> without much fuss just to save the time for "svnadmin create" and
> a DAV share on my Apache. But for everything else I think I'll
> stay with Subversion. And while I haven't tried
Simon Richter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>
> martin f krafft wrote:
>
>>> Subversion, in conjunction with alioth, has risen dramatically in
>>> Debian to accomodate team-based maintainance. There are of course
>>> plenty of challengers, but subversion seems to beat them all.
>
>> I'd be int
On Tuesday 01 August 2006 13:44, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.0005
+0100]:
> > Subversion, in conjunction with alioth, has risen dramatically in
> > Debian to accomodate team-based maintainance. There are of course
> > plenty of challengers, bu
Christian Aichinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 10:24:32AM +, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
>> The sbuild package in debian however adds more features, like
>> schroot support. With this, it can use schroot to create
>> temporary, clean chroots from tarballs, block devices,
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 03:31:26PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Pierre Machard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1501 +0100]:
> > snapshot.debian.net (still not-official but very usefull
>
> This is very interesting, especially in the light of version control
> for packaging -- which
ti, 2006-08-01 kello 15:31 +0100, martin f krafft kirjoitti:
> also sprach Pierre Machard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1501 +0100]:
> > snapshot.debian.net (still not-official but very usefull
>
> This is very interesting, especially in the light of version control
> for packaging -- which coul
On Tue, 2006-08-01 at 15:31 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> Could you give me some insights, please, into how snapshot.d.n is
> useful? Don't get me wrong, I also find it useful, but mostly from
> the administrator perspective, I've not really used it as
> a developer.
I'm using it when porting s
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 03:31:26PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> Could you give me some insights, please, into how snapshot.d.n is
> useful? Don't get me wrong, I also find it useful, but mostly from
> the administrator perspective, I've not really used it as
> a developer.
Binary searching for
also sprach Pierre Machard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1501 +0100]:
> snapshot.debian.net (still not-official but very usefull
This is very interesting, especially in the light of version control
for packaging -- which could also make packages from the past
accessible.
Could you give me some
Hi,
On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 09:39:26PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
[...]
> While I already have a good selection, I am on the look for more.
> Do you know of a good example of a tool that has successfully shaped
> Debian development for a large number of people? Or do you remember
> a tool that
On 8/1/06, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
also sprach Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1221 +0100]:
> Building in chroots *hides* bugs.
Uh, what? Please give an example.
The only example I can think of is programs that use configure to
include support for anything they
Hi,
martin f krafft wrote:
>> Subversion, in conjunction with alioth, has risen dramatically in
>> Debian to accomodate team-based maintainance. There are of course
>> plenty of challengers, but subversion seems to beat them all.
> I'd be interested in your thoughts as to why subversion beats th
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 10:24:32AM +, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> The sbuild package in debian however adds more features, like
> schroot support. With this, it can use schroot to create
> temporary, clean chroots from tarballs, block devices, create lvm
> snapshots on the fly and so on. I read R
#include
* Frank Küster [Tue, Aug 01 2006, 01:55:14PM]:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) wrote:
>
> > On Aug 01, Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> > > Also, pbuilder and debootstrap are considered absolutely critical for
> >> > > serious work.
> >> > That's a bold statement.
> >>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes:
> On Aug 01, David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Also, pbuilder and debootstrap are considered absolutely critical for
>> serious work.
> That's a bold statement.
>
> --
> ciao,
> Marco
Never used either one.
I have cdebootstrap do create chroo
also sprach Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1221 +0100]:
> Building in chroots *hides* bugs.
Uh, what? Please give an example.
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also sprach David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.0005 +0100]:
> Subversion, in conjunction with alioth, has risen dramatically in
> Debian to accomodate team-based maintainance. There are of course
> plenty of challengers, but subversion seems to beat them all.
I'd be interested in your t
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) wrote:
> On Aug 01, Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> > > Also, pbuilder and debootstrap are considered absolutely critical for
>> > > serious work.
>> > That's a bold statement.
>> Are you serious? (SCNR ;-)
> Yes. I do not use either and I think I have
Reinhard Tartler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Frank Küster wrote:
>>> There is also sbuild (which may be used with or without schroot to
>>> manage the chroot). I prefer it to pbuilder, but I may be a little
>>> biased ;-)
>>
>> Isn't sbuild usually using a permanently unpacked chroot which persi
On Aug 01, Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Also, pbuilder and debootstrap are considered absolutely critical for
> > > serious work.
> > That's a bold statement.
> Are you serious? (SCNR ;-)
Yes. I do not use either and I think I have been doing serious Debian
work so far.
Building i
Frank Küster wrote:
>> There is also sbuild (which may be used with or without schroot to
>> manage the chroot). I prefer it to pbuilder, but I may be a little
>> biased ;-)
>
> Isn't sbuild usually using a permanently unpacked chroot which persists
> between different invocations of the tool? Th
Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> I think maintainers should really build and test their packages in
>> clean sid chroots. It's not important Whether these are set up with
>> debootstrap or any other method, and whether the handling is done
>>
Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> #include
>> * Marco d'Itri [Tue, Aug 01 2006, 09:53:21AM]:
>>> On Aug 01, David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Also, pbuilder and debootstrap are considered absolutely critical for
>>> > serious
Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> #include
> * Marco d'Itri [Tue, Aug 01 2006, 09:53:21AM]:
>> On Aug 01, David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > Also, pbuilder and debootstrap are considered absolutely critical for
>> > serious work.
>> That's a bold statement.
>
> Are you seri
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 10:06:05AM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
>#include
>* Marco d'Itri [Tue, Aug 01 2006, 09:53:21AM]:
>>On Aug 01, David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>Also, pbuilder and debootstrap are considered absolutely critical for
>>>serious work.
+= piuparts
>>That's a bold s
#include
* Marco d'Itri [Tue, Aug 01 2006, 09:53:21AM]:
> On Aug 01, David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Also, pbuilder and debootstrap are considered absolutely critical for
> > serious work.
> That's a bold statement.
Are you serious? (SCNR ;-)
No, debootstrap is an important toy b
On Aug 01, David Nusinow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Also, pbuilder and debootstrap are considered absolutely critical for
> serious work.
That's a bold statement.
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On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 09:39:26PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> Dear fellow developers,
>
> As many of you know, I am conducting research on Debian,
> specifically on how Debian developers adopt or reject new methods of
> package maintenance. I would like to get a broad collection of data
> for
Am Montag 31 Juli 2006 17:08 schrieb Frank Küster:
> Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 09:39:26PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> >>> Do you know of a good example of a tool that has successfully shaped
> >>> D
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 09:39:26PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
>>> Do you know of a good example of a tool that has successfully shaped
>>> Debian development for a large number of people?
[...]
> H
also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.07.30.2139 +0100]:
> I have Reply-To set for fear of horrible flame wars when one DD
> bashes another one's favourite tool, but I will make the results
> public, obviously. Thus, I appreciate if you could take the time to
> drop me a short note
Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 09:39:26PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
>> Do you know of a good example of a tool that has successfully shaped
>> Debian development for a large number of people?
>
> CDBS and alioth/svn.debian.org.
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Michael
With
On Sun, Jul 30, 2006 at 09:39:26PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> Do you know of a good example of a tool that has successfully shaped
> Debian development for a large number of people?
CDBS and alioth/svn.debian.org.
HTH,
Michael
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