"Yann" == Yann Dirson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Yann> ...that reminds me... does anybody knows what has happened to
Yann> the periodic WNPP listing ? This kind of package really needs a
Yann> new maintainer ! Well, IMHO, at least... Maybe I'll volunteer,
Yann> but not right now... anyway it
Dirk Eddelbuettel writes:
>
> Yann> Now another idea would be jed. It's quite small (but maybe bigger
> Yann> than joe, don't know, don't have joe installed any more), uses
> Yann> S-lang, is emacs-likee, has vi emulation AFAIK.
>
> jed is currently without a maintainer, and the hamm
On Mon, Jun 15, 1998 at 12:34:38PM +0200, Yann Dirson wrote:
> Andreas Jellinghaus writes:
> > what then ?
> > joe.
>
> Well, that's IMHO an idea worth worth studying. When I first
> installed Linux, I was coming from DOS and Borland's editors, which
> joe mimics quite closely.
And joe, like a
Yann> Now another idea would be jed. It's quite small (but maybe bigger
Yann> than joe, don't know, don't have joe installed any more), uses
Yann> S-lang, is emacs-likee, has vi emulation AFAIK.
jed is currently without a maintainer, and the hamm version has too many
bugs. The previous mai
AE continues to seem terribly buggy. The keystrokes inexplicably seem
different every time I use it. Sometimes F10 means save, other times
its ^W. Often, the arrow keys are non-functional. It is very rare to
get it to do both a backspace and delete operation.
Joe, BTW, has its native keystro
I wrote:
> Vi and emacs should be able to use any editor.
That should read 'Vi and emacs users should be able to use any editor.'
^
I can't get my wife to try anything but vi, though.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
> [if not emacs or vi or ae,]
> > what then ?
> > joe.
>
> How dare you come up with such a logical solution to the problem! And how
> can you be so unfair as to include my favorite editor but not everyone
> else's? heh.
joe is not my favorite editor. it's the first editor i could use on linux.
> Well, that's IMHO an idea worth worth studying. When I first
> installed Linux, I was coming from DOS and Borland's editors, which
> joe mimics quite closely.
i know lots of people who came from DOS. know they use vi or emacs,
but they started useing linux with joe. they still know enought to
andreas writes:
> ae is nice, if want a crippeled, but very small editor.
> what then ?
> joe.
Just tried it. It's good enough for rescue disk use, but so is ae. And
joe is way too big. Anything that fits is ok on the rescue disk, as long
as the user knows it's there.
> joe is useable for vi
On Mon, Jun 15, 1998 at 09:38:16AM +0200, I mangled and reordered what
Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
> you may flame me, but you have to write the flame with joe.
You asked for it...
~$ echo $EDITOR
joe
~$
[if not emacs or vi or ae,]
> what then ?
> joe.
How dare you come up with such a logical
Andreas Jellinghaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you may flame me, but you have to write the flame with joe.
Ok, I'm writing my response in joe. [Is it a flame? I hope not.]
ae is about 24k, 12k when compressed with gzexe, joe is about 174k,
82k when compressed with gzexe.
For this you get a n
Andreas Jellinghaus writes:
> what then ?
> joe.
Well, that's IMHO an idea worth worth studying. When I first
installed Linux, I was coming from DOS and Borland's editors, which
joe mimics quite closely.
As a newbie, learning vi or emacs was not a short-term goal - I had to
do some effective w
what do you want on the rescue disk ?
- your favorite editor ?
that's not possible, we cannot include every editor
- only __your__ favorite editor ?
hey, that's unfair. and if it's emacs : too big.
- a strpped down version of all editors ?
great: everyone will be unhappym
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