Re: Standardizing use of kernel hook scripts

2009-04-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, While we are talking about API's for hook scripts, we should also discuss initramfs creation. Some kernel images, based on their configuration, need initrd's. All official kernel images fall in this category. Images created using upstream make deb and make-kpkg may

Re: Standardizing use of kernel hook scripts

2009-04-02 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Frans Pop may or may not have written... > Darren Salt wrote: >> I demand that Manoj Srivastava may or may not have written... >>> On Wed, Apr 01 2009, Frans Pop wrote: But is anyone still using it? Is there any current reason to support it >>> I think that there are Debian user

Re: Standardizing use of kernel hook scripts

2009-04-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, Apr 02 2009, Frans Pop wrote: > Tyler MacDonald wrote: >> Darren Salt wrote: >>> > On Wed, Apr 01 2009, Frans Pop wrote: >>> [make-kpkg] >>> >> But is anyone still using it? Is there any current reason to support >>> >> it >> >> Well, there's still some kernel options that are immutable

Re: Standardizing use of kernel hook scripts

2009-04-02 Thread Frans Pop
Tyler MacDonald wrote: > Darren Salt wrote: >> > On Wed, Apr 01 2009, Frans Pop wrote: >> [make-kpkg] >> >> But is anyone still using it? Is there any current reason to support >> >> it > > Well, there's still some kernel options that are immutable and > multiple choice. And there's always people

Re: Standardizing use of kernel hook scripts

2009-04-02 Thread Frans Pop
Darren Salt wrote: > I demand that Manoj Srivastava may or may not have written... >> On Wed, Apr 01 2009, Frans Pop wrote: >>> But is anyone still using it? Is there any current reason to support >>> it > >> I think that there are Debian users who use that option of make-kpkg, >> and I have not

Re: Standardizing use of kernel hook scripts

2009-04-01 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Darren Salt wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 01 2009, Frans Pop wrote: > [make-kpkg] > >> But is anyone still using it? Is there any current reason to support it Well, there's still some kernel options that are immutable and multiple choice. And there's always people that want to optimize. Out of l

Re: Standardizing use of kernel hook scripts

2009-04-01 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Manoj Srivastava may or may not have written... > On Wed, Apr 01 2009, Frans Pop wrote: [make-kpkg] >> But is anyone still using it? Is there any current reason to support it > I think that there are Debian users who use that option of make-kpkg, and I > have not seen any indication

Re: Standardizing use of kernel hook scripts

2009-04-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Apr 01 2009, Frans Pop wrote: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 01 2009, Frans Pop wrote: >>> (i.e. is there any reason to _add_ support for it in deb-pkg or in >>> whatever the kernel team is planning)? >> >> I think so. If we do standardize on /etc/kernel/*.d directories

Re: Standardizing use of kernel hook scripts

2009-04-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to gmane.linux.debian.devel.kernel as well. On Wed, Apr 01 2009, Frans Pop wrote: > - using debhelper would probably imply running a clean target and that's > one of the reasons why I very much prefer deb-pkg over make

Re: Standardizing use of kernel hook scripts

2009-04-01 Thread Frans Pop
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Wed, Apr 01 2009, Frans Pop wrote: >> (i.e. is there any reason to _add_ support for it in deb-pkg or in >> whatever the kernel team is planning)? > > I think so. If we do standardize on /etc/kernel/*.d directories > as the place where kernel packages will loo

Re: Standardizing use of kernel hook scripts

2009-04-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Apr 01 2009, Frans Pop wrote: > On Wednesday 01 April 2009, maximilian attems wrote: >> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Frans Pop wrote: > > The default for deb-pkg should IMO remain /etc/kernel in order not to > break things for existing users. If you move to /lib and users want to > follow, they

Re: Standardizing use of kernel hook scripts

2009-04-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Apr 01 2009, Frans Pop wrote: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> I think this is best held on -devel, since a wider audience will >> benefit from this. > > I've replied to d-kernel, but thanks for this "heads up" to d-devel. > If there is sufficient interest in the topic, we can summar

Re: Standardizing use of kernel hook scripts

2009-04-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Apr 01 2009, Frans Pop wrote: > Only just submitted: >http://marc.info/?l=linux-kbuild&m=123861445626856&w=2 > > maks has also submitted a set of patches: >http://marc.info/?l=linux-kbuild&m=123851278623264&w=2Some discussion on > those: >http://marc.info/?l=linux-kbuild&m=123

Re: Standardizing use of kernel hook scripts

2009-04-01 Thread Frans Pop
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Tue, Mar 24 2009, Frans Pop wrote: >> I'm not sure whether this discussion should happen here (d-kernel + >> selected interested parties) or would be better held on d-devel. >> If ppl think it would be better on d-devel, then please let me know and >> I'll restart it th

Re: Standardizing use of kernel hook scripts

2009-04-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to gmane.linux.debian.devel.kernel as well. On Tue, Mar 24 2009, Frans Pop wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm not sure whether this discussion should happen here (d-kernel + > selected interested parties) or would be better held o