Re: python-minimal in base?

2006-08-27 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 01:45:26AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: >[...] upstream considered it completely unacceptable for anyone to >ship python in such a state that users would end up with less than the >full python suite installed on their system. [...] In fairness, Perl upstream had similar pr

Re: python-minimal in base?

2006-08-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 10:23:46AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 08:43:22AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > > Also note that much of Debian started out as Perl. I won't compare > > the two, but it's basically the same. And there is python-minimal > > and I have heard ru

Re: python-minimal in base?

2006-08-24 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.24.0923 +0100]: > On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 08:43:22AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > > Also note that much of Debian started out as Perl. I won't compare > > the two, but it's basically the same. And there is python-minimal > > and I have

Re: python-minimal

2006-04-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 02:08:25PM -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, that's not what I said. The python-minimal package is designed to be > > used *as* an Essential package, not *by* Essential packages. Nothing, > > essential or not, should depend o

Re: python-minimal

2006-04-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm playing paranoid here, but why don't you want to declare > dependencies on essential packages? The short answer is "because Policy 3.5 says they shouldn't." I'm not positive about the exact rationale, though. > If the package ceases to be Essent

Re: python-minimal

2006-04-30 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, that's not what I said. The python-minimal package is designed to be > used *as* an Essential package, not *by* Essential packages. Nothing, > essential or not, should depend on it in Debian, whether or not > python-minimal itself gets marked as Ess

Re: python-minimal

2006-04-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 04:25:18PM -0400, Joe Smith wrote: > "Steve Langasek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 09:32:52PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > >>Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> Seems to me that this should be at lea

Re: python-minimal

2006-04-30 Thread Joe Smith
"Steve Langasek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 09:00:53PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: The alsa-utils package depends on python-minimal. As a result, I must now have two versions of python installed. That's a bug. alsa-utils should de

Re: python-minimal

2006-04-30 Thread Joe Smith
"Steve Langasek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 09:32:52PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Seems to me that this should be at least a bug report on alsa-utils. > I'm surprised that there would be a

Re: python-minimal

2006-04-30 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 30, Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The alsa-utils package depends on python-minimal. Yes, it's very annoying that a dependency on another scripting language was added because of a trivial script. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: python-minimal

2006-04-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 09:32:52PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Seems to me that this should be at least a bug report on alsa-utils. > > I'm surprised that there would be a need for a lintian check for it, but > > I guess it's better than letting such

Re: python-minimal

2006-04-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Seems to me that this should be at least a bug report on alsa-utils. > I'm surprised that there would be a need for a lintian check for it, but > I guess it's better than letting such bugs go unnoticed. I can add one; it's not a lot of overhead given t

Re: python-minimal

2006-04-29 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 09:16:20PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 09:00:53PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > >> The alsa-utils package depends on python-minimal. > >> As a result, I must now have two versions of pyth

Re: python-minimal

2006-04-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 09:00:53PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > >> The alsa-utils package depends on python-minimal. > >> As a result, I must now have two versions of python installed. That's >> a bug. > >> alsa-utils should depend on "python |

Re: python-minimal

2006-04-29 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Apr 29, 2006 at 09:00:53PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > The alsa-utils package depends on python-minimal. > As a result, I must now have two versions of python installed. That's > a bug. > alsa-utils should depend on "python | python-minimal", or perhaps the > python packages sho