Re: Calendars (was: Re: leap second)

1997-06-23 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
On Jun 22, Bruce Perens wrote > Speaking of predictability, isn't 2000 a leap year? The rule is different > for the turn of the century. 2000/02/29 exists. (the rule is : every for years, but not every hundred years, but every 400 years). AFAIK. regards, andreas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAIL

Re: Calendars (was: Re: leap second)

1997-06-23 Thread Wayne Schlitt
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (joost witteveen) writes: > > Now, we know the length of a year/day better, and > only 1 in for of those turn-of-century years are leap years. Maybe that > will change again. And about the seconds: we (currently, prossibly always) > si

Re: Calendars (was: Re: leap second)

1997-06-22 Thread Bruce Perens
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) > Not everyone switched in 1752. This is Pope Gregory's calendar reform, isn't it? I think it goes back a century or more before 1752. > Actually, it probably was a bad idea to use "leap" for both. Leap days are > fixed by calendar design. Leap seconds a

Re: Calendars (was: Re: leap second)

1997-06-22 Thread joost witteveen
> > Run "cal 9 1752" and tell me that. [..] > A more serious problem is that the current implementation doesn't allow > for non-Christian date systems, of which there are several in active use. > I'd expect that to be a problem for people in both parts of Jerusalem, for > example. > > Does a

Re: leap second

1997-06-22 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 21.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Can someone explain to me exactly what POSIX time is? I was under the It's just what you'd expect. Look at the calendar, get the timezone difference (keeping in mind summertime laws), do the math, and get a second counter. If a l

Calendars (was: Re: leap second)

1997-06-22 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) wrote on 21.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Someone wrote: > > This is completely unacceptable. OS time must be predictable. > > Run "cal 9 1752" and tell me that. Consider it done. And now? (Besides, isn't that a bug in cal? Not everyone switched in 1752. In fa

Re: leap second

1997-06-22 Thread Bruce Perens
Someone wrote: > This is completely unacceptable. OS time must be predictable. Run "cal 9 1752" and tell me that. > Can someone explain to me exactly what POSIX time is? Posix time includes leap-year-days, but does not include the finer resolution of leap-seconds. 21 leap-seconds (number 22 is c

Re: leap second

1997-06-21 Thread branden
On Sat, 21 Jun 1997, Mark Baker wrote: > As it is, we use POSIX time, which means that the system time follows GMT. > When there is a leap second the time itself is changed; the timezone > information does not need to. > > > This is completely unacceptable. OS time must be predictable. > > Which

Re: leap second

1997-06-21 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Baker) wrote on 21.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: > > > Consider a system using "real" time. On June 31, its idea of time would be > > wrong until the next software upgrade. > > No. Using r

Re: leap second

1997-06-21 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Goerzen) wrote on 20.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What's the big deal? Why would you have to update everything? All > you do is add an extra second to your system clock at the end of June > and be done with it. Or you don't. Big deal. That's when you use POSIX time

Re: leap second

1997-06-21 Thread Mark Baker
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: > Consider a system using "real" time. On June 31, its idea of time would be > wrong until the next software upgrade. No. Using real time, the system clock increments normally, and correctly measures the time si

Re: leap second

1997-06-21 Thread John Goerzen
What's the big deal? Why would you have to update everything? All you do is add an extra second to your system clock at the end of June and be done with it. Or you don't. Big deal. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) wrote on 18.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROT

Re: leap second

1997-06-20 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens) wrote on 18.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The time is out of joint, o 'cursed spite. > > The U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology will set it right > on June 30, at one second before midnight UTC, by adding a leap second. > Systems that run on POS