Re: can we (fully) release-goal decommissioning of trolls

2012-08-22 Thread Philipp Kern
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 03:03:29PM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > Similar (security) problems are (possibly) brought by techniques like > Avahi... There's not much revealed by it that's not visible from a port scan. (Ok, the hostname probably.) And the mDNS data stream is only accessible

Re: can we (fully) release-goal decommissioning of trolls

2012-08-22 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 12:38 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > This is untrue. Any *physically logged on* user can connect to any > network. For a desktop system this is clearly a reasonable default Well the are people that may disagree here. Of course this is dependent on personal views. Anyway what

Re: can we (fully) release-goal decommissioning of trolls

2012-08-22 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 00:47 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Thanks for this excellent example of the behavior I described. With > “down to Windows level” you must think you have hit the trigger of the > ultimate bazooka to shut people up, don’t you? Well Josselin,... I'm not generally against new

Re: can we (fully) release-goal decommissioning of trolls

2012-08-20 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 08/21/2012 06:47 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: > For some pieces of the system, “down to > Windows level” would be quite an improvement. > Are you suggesting that we replace the start menu by a Sokoban game? Sorry, couldn't resist... :) Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ..

Re: can we (fully) release-goal decommissioning of trolls

2012-08-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 20 août 2012 à 21:35 +0200, Stephan Seitz a écrit : > >These people are the disease. They are toxic to the community and tend > > Why, thank you. I think that these people are a disease who are always > trying to drag down Linux to Windows level Thanks for this excellent example of the

Re: can we (fully) release-goal decommissioning of trolls

2012-08-20 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:38:07PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: It seems the "desired" scenario for NM is that /e/n/i is empty Yes. This is actually what happens on usual setups (one interface, DHCP without any special options) upon NM installation. Well, until some weeks ago I never had a d

Re: can we (fully) release-goal decommissioning of trolls

2012-08-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 19 août 2012 à 19:26 +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer a écrit : > 1) In parts it has some security issues. > - At least the default setting seems to be that any user can connect to > any network. This is untrue. Any *physically logged on* user can connect to any network. For a desktop