Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-22 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Jon Dowland dixit: >The stuff is things such as "minified" js. The wordpress source contains the >minified copies, and you can get the originals in separate tarballs from the >wordpress site. Eh, I’d call that RC. People have been told off for not including the corresponding source in the .orig.t

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-19 Thread Florian Weimer
* Jon Dowland: > So if I understand the situation correctly; wordpress ships a pre-build binary > which cannot be generated in Debian? Whether the source is in a separate > package or not, this does not feel right. It's not without precedent. Ocaml bootstraps off a binary blob to avoid a cyclic

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, (Corsac was right, you'd better CC the maintainers with whom you want to discuss...) On Wed, 16 May 2012, Russell Coker wrote: > Would it be possible to have somewhere on the Debian servers for storing such > files so that they can be referenced in a README file or something rather > than

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-17 Thread Toni Mueller
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 03:56:25PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > Hopefully you've got the build-dependencies too. Which, if the source packages > were split off into other packages, you'd then pull in. Being able to read the source code can often get you quite far already, but yes, usually, I want a

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:10:55PM +0200, Toni Mueller wrote: > If you say "download some, and ignore the others in most cases", please > consider that in the case you really find out that you need the source, > you'll most likely be offline, and cannot do much about it (Murphy's > laws apply gener

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-17 Thread Toni Mueller
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 05:53:11PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Russell Coker wrote: > > Would it be possible to have somewhere on the Debian servers for storing > > such > > files so that they can be referenced in a README file or something rather > > than > > sent

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-17 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 02:20:48PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Unfortunately, swfupload *cannot* be packaged in Debian because we have no > ways of building it (unless the situation changed with adobe tools... in > which case, I would really like to hear about it!). The only thing you could > pa

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-17 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mer., 2012-05-16 at 19:45 +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > I just downloaded the source to Wordpress from Squeeze, it's got a 14M > .debian.tar.xz which is mostly sources for things that are included in the > upstream tarball. The build process appears to only use the upstream tarball > code so

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Unfortunately, swfupload *cannot* be packaged in Debian because we have > no ways of building it (unless the situation changed with adobe tools... in > which case, I would really like to hear about it!). The only thing you could > package >

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-16 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/16/2012 08:45 PM, Jon Dowland wrote: > Of course, many of these could be separate source/binary packages in their own > right[1], as they have value outside of wordpress, and be > Build-Depends/Depends > of wordpress. In fact a few already are: jquery (already packaged); swfupload > (not yet

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-16 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Russell Coker] > Would it be possible to have somewhere on the Debian servers for > storing such files so that they can be referenced in a README file or > something rather than sent to everyone? I'm sure that most people > who build a Wordpress package won't use them. As Paul Wise said, best i

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-16 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 05:53:11PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > Seems like a bug, the best way to determine that sources are still > buildable is to always build them. The stuff is things such as "minified" js. The wordpress source contains the minified copies, and you can get the originals in separa

Re: big .debian.tar.xz - EG Wordpress

2012-05-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Russell Coker wrote: > I just downloaded the source to Wordpress from Squeeze, it's got a 14M > .debian.tar.xz which is mostly sources for things that are included in the > upstream tarball.  The build process appears to only use the upstream tarball > code so the