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On 2003-12-03 05:08, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> To the extent that they are self-supporting, they become economically
> irrelevant to a commerical distribution or to a support provider of
> UserLinux. The best that you will get out of these customers are
Theodore Ts'o wrote:
Why does Group 1 really care about running under Linux, as opposed to some other OS? Is it really about price sensitivity? If so, it's surprising because to the extent that they pay $50,000 for Oracle, or $1,000,000+ for SAP R/3, why should they care about the cost of
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 08:24:09AM +0100, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
| > This is the Proprietary software model, with artificial, government
| > imposed (via copyright laws) monopolies, resulting in customer lock-in
| > and price maximization.
|
| I dont see a monopol, at least no government imposed.
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 04:36:18PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> How many financials implementations are ultimately needed - really only
> one, perhaps customized for vertical markets.
A healthy market requires competition. And different companies have very
different needs. The IT Infrastructure
On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 11:12, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 12:04:31PM +, bruce wrote:
> > > I did a first pass at the UserLinux white paper, it's at
> > > http://userlinux.org/white_paper.html. I think I'll sleep for a while.
>
> The next logical question then is why will an
On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 15:08, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 04:52:47PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> > I don't deny that many businesses do have to come to their vendor on
> > bended knee to get support for a new platform. It's important, however,
> > to realize that this does indi
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 04:52:47PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> I don't deny that many businesses do have to come to their vendor on
> bended knee to get support for a new platform. It's important, however,
> to realize that this does indicate a problem in the customer's
> relationship with the
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 04:52:47PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> So, our problem is how to rebalance the vendor-customer relationship for
> our purposes. Probably the most useful tool is the industry group
> organization, where a number of similar businesses get together to steer
> their particip
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 04:52:47PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> So, our problem is how to rebalance the vendor-customer relationship for
> our purposes. Probably the most useful tool is the industry group
> organization, where a number of similar businesses get together to steer
> their particip
Ted,
The problem you mention manifests itself this way. A number of shops
will standardize on the Linux that Oracle endorses. 99% of the systems
upon which that Linux runs do not host Oracle, but they don't want to
have to know two systems. And thus they end up paying so much for Linux
that th
> On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 12:04:31PM +, bruce wrote:
> > I did a first pass at the UserLinux white paper, it's at
> > http://userlinux.org/white_paper.html. I think I'll sleep for a while.
This is an interesting white paper, but I think it's missing something
rather important in its discussion
That's userlinux.com . I don't have the .org, some domain squatter has
that.
Thanks
Bruce
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 12:04:31PM +, bruce wrote:
> I did a first pass at the UserLinux white paper, it's at
> http://userlinux.org/white_paper.html. I think I'll sleep for a while.
>
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