Re: Updates in the very-old-stable

2013-01-07 Thread Mike Gabriel
Hi Thomas, hi others, On So 06 Jan 2013 19:36:09 CET Thomas Goirand wrote: Another idea that pops up. Obviously, if this starts somehow, it will be for when Squeeze is declared EOL, so that's in about a year of time. Probably we can have an open round table about this at next Debconf. I'd be

Re: Updates in the very-old-stable

2013-01-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 01/07/2013 01:32 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 09:48:20PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> On 01/06/2013 09:08 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: >>> Ie, anything that is likely to be vulnerable remotely. >> And also, anything that is likely to be a critical piece of software. >> Lik

Re: Updates in the very-old-stable

2013-01-06 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 09:48:20PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 01/06/2013 09:08 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: > > Ie, anything that is likely to be vulnerable remotely. > > And also, anything that is likely to be a critical piece of software. > Like, for example I wouldn't really care about game

Re: Updates in the very-old-stable

2013-01-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 01/06/2013 09:08 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: > > It shouldn't not be some private repository in a dark corner of teh > interwebs, it must be an official thing with a mandatory apt line during > the installation. I agree that would be the best thing to do, however it doesn't seem like it's going to

Re: Updates in the very-old-stable

2013-01-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 01/06/2013 02:32 PM, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > Sure. > > We as DD have shell access to people.debian.org. Also many people have > shell access to alioth.debian.org. Both seems to have packages needed > to set up PPA like archive[1]. I think using any one of the following > tools should be good en

Re: Updates in the very-old-stable

2013-01-06 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 01:54:34PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > I agree on all what you said (eg: difficulties in doing such a maintenance, > the fact we don't have unlimited manpower, etc.), but I'm still convince it > would be worth a try. > > On 01/06/2013 04:39 AM, Neil Williams wrote: > > I

Re: Updates in the very-old-stable

2013-01-06 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 09:19:13AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Osamu Aoki > > > We as DD have shell access to people.debian.org. Also many people have > > shell access to alioth.debian.org. Both seems to have packages needed > > to set up PPA like archive[1]. I think using any one of th

Re: Updates in the very-old-stable

2013-01-06 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Osamu Aoki > We as DD have shell access to people.debian.org. Also many people have > shell access to alioth.debian.org. Both seems to have packages needed > to set up PPA like archive[1]. I think using any one of the following > tools should be good enough: Please don't encourage people

Re: Updates in the very-old-stable

2013-01-05 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 01:54:34PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > Neil, > > I agree on all what you said (eg: difficulties in doing such a maintenance, > the fact we don't have unlimited manpower, etc.), but I'm still convince it > would be worth a try. > > On 01/06/2013 04:39 AM, Neil William

Re: Updates in the very-old-stable

2013-01-05 Thread Thomas Goirand
Neil, I agree on all what you said (eg: difficulties in doing such a maintenance, the fact we don't have unlimited manpower, etc.), but I'm still convince it would be worth a try. On 01/06/2013 04:39 AM, Neil Williams wrote: > It's not about prohibiting updates, it's that most maintainers don't

Re: Updates in the very-old-stable (was: Time to merge back ubuntu improvements!(

2013-01-05 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 06 Jan 2013 02:44:42 +0800 Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 01/06/2013 02:02 AM, Mike Gabriel wrote: > > Hi Thomas, > > > >> I agree. It would be nice if it was at least possible to upload security > >> updates > >> right now to old-stable, even if that wasn't officially supported. At > >> leas

Re: Updates in the very-old-stable (was: Time to merge back ubuntu improvements!(

2013-01-05 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 01/06/2013 02:02 AM, Mike Gabriel wrote: > Hi Thomas, > >> I agree. It would be nice if it was at least possible to upload security >> updates >> right now to old-stable, even if that wasn't officially supported. At >> least, this >> would be a nice way to go forward (eg: based on "best effort",