Re: Ubuntu patches

2006-02-22 Thread Scott James Remnant
On 2/21/06, Lionel Elie Mamane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You probably missed this question, which I also wanted to ask: > Frank forwarded it to me, and I replied to him in person -- here's the reply. > On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 03:55:23PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > > "Scott James Remnant" <[EMA

Re: Ubuntu patches

2006-02-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 12:11:00AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: > > But afaik, you don't actually have access to that since it's on a > > restricted access machine, so I'm at a loss as to what you're calling > > "Debian's morgue". > Merkel's

Re: Ubuntu patches

2006-02-21 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Anthony Towns wrote: > But afaik, you don't actually have access to that since it's on a > restricted access machine, so I'm at a loss as to what you're calling > "Debian's morgue". Merkel's mirror, most probably. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One d

Re: Ubuntu patches

2006-02-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 02:06:47PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > * Processing netbase >- unstable: 4.24 >- main: 4.23ubuntu4 >- testing: 4.24 >- stable: 4.21 >- oldstable: 4.07 >- morgue: 4.22 > So the reason it didn't use 4.23 was simply t

Re: Ubuntu patches

2006-02-21 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
You probably missed this question, which I also wanted to ask: On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 03:55:23PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > "Scott James Remnant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> And the reason 4.23 isn't in the morgue is simple, Debian's morgue ran >> out of disk space a while ago. > What is De

Re: Ubuntu patches

2006-02-21 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.02.21.1643 +0100]: > Launchpad does allow e-mail submission of support tickets and > bugs, but only if your e-mail address is registered against > a Launchpad account. I believe this is because they think it's > the best way to avoid spam (

Re: Ubuntu patches

2006-02-21 Thread Scott James Remnant
On 2/21/06, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > also sprach Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.02.21.1506 +0100]: > > File a request here: > > https://launchpad.net/products/nda/+addticket > > This isn't a rant, but a serious wishlist request: if Canonical > wants more coope

Re: Ubuntu patches

2006-02-21 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.02.21.1506 +0100]: > File a request here: > https://launchpad.net/products/nda/+addticket Scott, I appreciate your work and your mail to keep us up to date. It's good to see you back at the keys! This isn't a rant, but a serious wishli

Re: Ubuntu patches

2006-02-21 Thread Frank Küster
"Scott James Remnant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And the reason 4.23 isn't in the morgue is simple, Debian's morgue ran > out of disk space a while ago. What is Debian's morgue? What about using snapshot.debian.net? Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Foldi

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-22 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The problem is that you are both looking at the process in reverse. As I > explained, Ubuntu imports a subset of bugs from the Debian bug tracking > system, and those are the bugs which are relevant to the process I > described. You make it sound lik

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 07:29:24PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The only distinction here is between merely publishing the patches on our > > website, and pushing the patch to the Debian maintainer immediately. We > > publish all of our patches

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-22 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 07:29:24PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Um, so these patches, are they bugfixes? Not necessarily, many of Ubuntu patches are just enhancements that _could_ be made in Debian. See for example http://bugs.debian.org/246935, they might or might not have the corres

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 07:55:38AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > If you ask me I would immediately subscribe to all of my packages and > I would not consider it as noise if any patch Ububtu is doing would be > sended automatically as wishlist bug to the Debian BTS. If you browse through the patch

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Alexandre
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 07:55:38AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > >for use elsewhere. In the future, we intend to offer a subscription > >mechanism for interested parties to receive asynchronous notification of > >new > >patches and other activity, b

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Matt Zimmerman wrote: for use elsewhere. In the future, we intend to offer a subscription mechanism for interested parties to receive asynchronous notification of new patches and other activity, but until that time, we are taking a If you ask me I would immediately subscribe t

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 03:02:32AM +, Henning Makholm wrote: > Then I'm having trouble parsing what you are saying, too. Like > Thomas, the only sense I can make of your description is that > you are are describing an algorithm that goes roughly like > > 0 Bug is discovered > 1 Patch

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 06:43:45PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: >> Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Many Debian maintainers would consider this unwelcome noise. In >> > cases where we can be certain that this is welcome (i.e., a bu

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 11:31:01PM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote: > > > These seem like excellent fodder for a FAQ/wiki, if there isn't one > > already (a quick scan around Ubuntu's official and wiki FAQs didn't turn > > up anything). Perhaps "How Ubuntu

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 11:31:01PM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote: > These seem like excellent fodder for a FAQ/wiki, if there isn't one > already (a quick scan around Ubuntu's official and wiki FAQs didn't turn > up anything). Perhaps "How Ubuntu relates to Debian", or "How Ubuntu > changes find the

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Andres Salomon
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:32:54 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> The only distinction here is between merely publishing the patches on our >> website, and pushing the patch to the Debian maintainer immediately. We >> publish all of our patches rela

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The only distinction here is between merely publishing the patches on our > website, and pushing the patch to the Debian maintainer immediately. We > publish all of our patches relative to Debian on a regular basis, and make > an honest effort to sort

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The only distinction here is between merely publishing the patches on our > website, and pushing the patch to the Debian maintainer immediately. We > publish all of our patches relative to Debian on a regular basis, and make > an honest effort to sort

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 07:04:04PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > So can you explain what I'm misunderstanding? What sort of patches > are we talking about, and what is the publishing you're talking about? The only distinction here is between merely publishing the patches on our website, an

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 06:43:45PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Many Debian maintainers would consider this unwelcome noise. In cases > > > where > > > we can be certain that this is welcome

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 06:43:45PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Many Debian maintainers would consider this unwelcome noise. In cases where > > we can be certain that this is welcome (i.e., a bug is open in debbugs), the > > patch is pushed, o

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 12:28:36AM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > > > One suggestion: if any Ubuntu patches were CC'd to the Debian > > maintainer, or filed in the BTS, they would get applied quicker. I've > > now put your gimp-print changes back into my

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Mar 22, 2005 at 12:28:36AM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > One suggestion: if any Ubuntu patches were CC'd to the Debian > maintainer, or filed in the BTS, they would get applied quicker. I've > now put your gimp-print changes back into my packages, but I would > have been happy to do this la

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Roger Leigh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Many Debian developers have been asking for a simple way to see the > current difference between their package and the equivalent in Ubuntu, > if any. > > http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/patches/ That

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 08:46:25AM -0800, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 12:36:42PM +0100, Norbert Tretkowski wrote: > > That helps a lot, thanks Scott! What about offering a way to subscribe > > to packages, so you'll get informed by mail if a package in Ubuntu is > > changed, may

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 12:36:42PM +0100, Norbert Tretkowski wrote: > That helps a lot, thanks Scott! What about offering a way to subscribe > to packages, so you'll get informed by mail if a package in Ubuntu is > changed, maybe with an interdiff applied to that mail? This isn't possible yet, bu

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
* Scott James Remnant wrote: > Ubuntu developers have been asking for patches to be updated when a > new Ubuntu upload is made, not just when a new Debian upload is > made. > > Hand me that rock, I've a couple of birds to kill ... > > http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/patches/ > > At this URL, you

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 01:03:17PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Mar 21, Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I see that Ubuntu has done a lot of work to make initscripts send output > > through lsb printing functions. Are there any plans for Debian to adopt > > these changes? > > The fir

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 21, Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I see that Ubuntu has done a lot of work to make initscripts send output > through lsb printing functions. Are there any plans for Debian to adopt > these changes? The first step would be for somebody to make a debian lsb-base package, possibly

Re: Ubuntu Patches

2005-03-21 Thread Thomas Hood
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/patches/ Thanks, that is very useful. I see that Ubuntu has done a lot of work to make initscripts send output through lsb printing functions. Are there any plans for Debian to adopt these changes? -- Thomas Hood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED