Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
Hi, On Tue, 13 May 2003, Christoph Haas wrote: > Hi, Fabio... > > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:16:38PM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > > Really nice job but the first side effect is already there: > > > > Package: icaclient > > Thanks for the hint. That was a test package I was uploading to

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
Hi, On Tue, 13 May 2003, Emile van Bergen wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:16:38PM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > > > I think upload must be moderated somehow. Even the uploader himself claim > > that he is unsure about licence of the product. > > Well, if the packages can onl

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
Hi, On Tue, 13 May 2003, Rene Engelhard wrote: > And that looks like it is f*cked. Is this Depends: done manually? > I do not thing dpkg-shlibdeps did that. Where is libc6? Actually i was only worried about the licence because i know it can't be there. We use it at work :-) Fabio -- Our miss

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Mon, 12 May 2003, tony mancill wrote: > Appropos of this and Colin's statement, my suggestion is to make only a > deb-src URL available on the site, and to only host source packages. For That would be one way to solve the problem. > packages destined for the Debian archive, it's critical tha

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, May 12, 2003 at 11:40:04PM -0400, Joe Nahmias wrote: > > If I may make a suggestion, a user should only be able to upload a > package that either: > > a) doesn't appear in the repository > > - -or- > > b) already has the uploader as maintainer > > - -or- > > c) has a RFA/O bug filed i

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:16:38PM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > I think upload must be moderated somehow. Even the uploader himself claim > that he is unsure about licence of the product. Well, if the packages can only be downloaded by registered DDs, then the problem's solved I'd

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > Really nice job but the first side effect is already there: > > Package: icaclient > Version: 6.30-2 > Priority: optional > Section: net > Maintainer: Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Depends: libxaw7 And that looks like it is f*cked. Is this Depends: done

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Christoph Haas
Hi, Fabio... On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:16:38PM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > Really nice job but the first side effect is already there: > > Package: icaclient Thanks for the hint. That was a test package I was uploading to stress test the dupload process on the server. It wasn't reall

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
Hi Daniel, On Mon, 12 May 2003, Daniel K. Gebhart wrote: > We are very proud to announce the opening of the mentors project. We > have been working very hard[1] on this project since beginning of 2003. > Now the time has come to test and use it! Really nice job but the first side effect is alre

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Drew Scott Daniels
I'm glad to see this service. The Developer's Reference lists http://www.internatif.org/bortzmeyer/debian/sponsor/ as being a place to co-ordinate the sponsoring of packages. Currently it's unavailable to me (down?). Other problems I have with it include: no place to upload packages and it's for "

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 05:41:12PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote: > That's not mutually exclusive. Also, you ask who would ever wish to > delegate the maintainership of a package. I think the answer is every DD > who has filed a RFA on a package. RFA is a Request For Adoption, not a delegation. Th

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 09:48:49AM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 12:07:12PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote: > [...] > > Regardless, I actually think it's a wonderful scaleability measure > > to provide some infrastructure that allows DDs to delegate som

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Bob Hilliard
Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > However the service > was created especially for people who e.g. have written an application > themselves and do not care about becoming a DD. I object to the conept of "people who do not care abou

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 12:07:12PM +0200, Emile van Bergen wrote: [...] > Regardless, I actually think it's a wonderful scaleability measure to > provide some infrastructure that allows DDs to delegate some of the > packaging work to NMs in the queue, who can prove that they are worth > their salt,

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, May 12, 2003 at 10:48:03PM +0200, Daniel K. Gebhart wrote: [...] > The mentors core-team is: [...] > the debian mentors core-team "core team"? So, when can we expect expulsions? >:) -- 2. That which causes joy or happiness. Please Cc: unless you mail -devel.

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:02:11AM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > You are right. I do plan to apply in a few weeks. However the service > was created especially for people who e.g. have written an application > themselves and do not care about becoming a DD. Is that such a good thing? It might ge

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 03:51:42PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, May 12, 2003 at 10:48:03PM +0200, Daniel K. Gebhart wrote: > > --- > > Debian Mentors Project > > > The mentors core-team is: > > Christoph Haas (Chri

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Craig Small
On Mon, May 12, 2003 at 09:33:50PM -0700, tony mancill wrote: > Appropos of this and Colin's statement, my suggestion is to make only a > deb-src URL available on the site, and to only host source packages. For > packages destined for the Debian archive, it's critical that they be > reviewed as so

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 04:34:08AM -0500, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:02:11AM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > > Please bear with me but from what I was told by a number of package > > maintainers it is a really long way until one has become a DD. Just > >

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:02:11AM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > Please bear with me but from what I was told by a number of package > maintainers it is a really long way until one has become a DD. Just > because Daniel was assigned an AM does not mean there is a guarantee he > will get his DD acc

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 03:51:42PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > Daniel K. Gebhart (con-fuse) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Christoph Siess (CHS) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Why are we giving debian.net addresses to people who don't want to go > through the "pain" of authenticating themselve

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 08:30:03AM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 01:29:00AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Mon, May 12, 2003 at 05:41:40PM -0600, Jack Moffitt wrote: > > > Perhaps an easy thing to do would just be to show whether or not a > > > pckage is signed by a key whic

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Christoph Haas
Hi, Anthony... On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 03:51:42PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Uh, as far as I can tell, of the above only Daniel is even in the > n-m queue; Christoph, Ivo and Christoph appear to not be developers, > applicants, or even sponsored maintainers of any packages in the archive. You

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 03:51:42PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, May 12, 2003 at 10:48:03PM +0200, Daniel K. Gebhart wrote: > > --- > > Debian Mentors Project > > > The mentors core-team is: > > Christoph Haas

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 01:29:00AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, May 12, 2003 at 05:41:40PM -0600, Jack Moffitt wrote: > > Perhaps an easy thing to do would just be to show whether or not a > > pckage is signed by a key which is signed by a real debian developer. > Surely getting that sign

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-13 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, May 12, 2003 at 10:48:03PM +0200, Daniel K. Gebhart wrote: > --- > Debian Mentors Project > The mentors core-team is: > Christoph Haas (ChrisH)<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Ivo Marino (eim) <[EMAIL P

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-12 Thread tony mancill
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Daniel K. Gebhart wrote: > Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote Tue, May 13, 2003 at 08:36:12AM > +1000: > > *very* serious problem for anyone who starts relying on the binary packages > > uploaded to m.d.n. What sort of protections do you have in place or plan to > > pu

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-12 Thread Joe Nahmias
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ivo Marino wrote: Checking application/pgp-signature: FAILURE - -- Start of PGP signed section. > On Tue, 13 May 2003, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > It appears as though anyone who has an account can upload any package they > > like. While this isn't a p

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-12 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, 13 May 2003, Daniel K. Gebhart wrote: > Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote Tue, May 13, 2003 at 08:36:12AM > +1000: > > *very* serious problem for anyone who starts relying on the binary packages > > uploaded to m.d.n. What sort of protections do you have in place or plan to > > pu

Re: The Debian Mentors Project

2003-05-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, May 12, 2003 at 05:41:40PM -0600, Jack Moffitt wrote: > Ivo Marino wrote: > > Of course we can't actually ensure that all uploaded packages on the > > system are secure, for now we trust the testers of the system but in > > future we'll introduce higher security standards. > > > > If someo