On 05/14/2013 10:53 PM, John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell wrote:
Ben what basis do you have against .gz ?
It was already mentioned, it takes more space. Everyone (e.g. Fedora
with rpm) is switching to xz, not just Debian. The Linux kernel is using
more advanced compression algorithms as w
Ben what basis do you have against .gz ?
And I'd love to know if it won't cause dependancy problems when
someone has more than one debian they are dealing with.
I doubt it's as simple as stated.
What's wrong with saying so?
And yes I do think there are some that would inject problems (such
On 2013-05-14, John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell
wrote:
> Are you trying to cause problems with free software?
Quite the opposite. He is trying to ensure that we don't have to modify
all packages to get them xz compressed, but rather does it from a
central place.
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Ben Hutchings writes:
> John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell wrote:
>> It's too new to say if it has no long term problems (ie, such as
>> support issues).
> xz has been supported in Debian for some time, with no problems that I'm
> aware of.
It's also being widely adopted by upstreams and is
On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 21:53 -0400, John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell
wrote:
> I'm complaining.
>
> Why are you fixing something that isn't broken and isn't an issue ?
It's not broken, but there is an issue: it's getting hard to fit a
generally useful set of packages and tasks on CD#1, and xz c
I'm complaining.
Why are you fixing something that isn't broken and isn't an issue ?
Are you trying to cause problems with free software?
Are you playing favorites?
It's too new to say if it has no long term problems (ie, such as
support issues).
How is shipping (ie kernel) in all three of .gz
On Wed, 8 May 2013 17:57:57 +0200
Michael Banck wrote:
> You mean for debian.tar? I would assume most debian.tars are not so big
> that it would make a big difference and be worth the hassle, but dunno.
Yes, not a big difference for debian.tar as blogged(*),
- gz : 503M
- xz : 414M
On Thu, 2013-05-09 at 00:42 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:13:59PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 06:14:36PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 09:49:03PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> > > > As mentioned some months ago [0],
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:13:59PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 06:14:36PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
> > On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 09:49:03PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> > > As mentioned some months ago [0], I'm planning to switch dpkg-deb default
> > > compressor from gz
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 06:14:36PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 09:49:03PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> > As mentioned some months ago [0], I'm planning to switch dpkg-deb default
> > compressor from gzip to xz, as there seemed to be consensus that was
> > the way to go, a
On Wed, 08 May 2013, Michael Banck wrote:
> > Do you plan to switch the default compression for source packages to xz
> > as well?
>
> You mean for debian.tar?
This and "3.0 (native)" source packages.
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Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> I agree that we have such a consensus.
Not for packages installed by debootstrap.
> There was a time where d-i was not ready, but nowadays udeb are compressed
> with xz and busybox's xz is used in that context.
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On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 09:49:03PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> As mentioned some months ago [0], I'm planning to switch dpkg-deb default
> compressor from gzip to xz, as there seemed to be consensus that was
> the way to go, and given the amount of already manually switched
> packages, or packagi
Hi,
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:17:39AM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> On 05/07/2013 21:49, Guillem Jover wrote:
> > As mentioned some months ago [0], I'm planning to switch dpkg-deb default
> > compressor from gzip to xz, as there seemed to be consensus that was
> > the way to go, and given the
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 12:38:47 +0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 09:49:03PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> > If there's people who are still worried about that, I'd ask them to
> > file bugs on the base packages to make them pass -Zgz explicitly to
> > dpkg-deb (I'll do that for d
Hi!
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 12:03:13 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:17:39AM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> > On 05/07/2013 21:49, Guillem Jover wrote:
> > > As mentioned some months ago [0], I'm planning to switch dpkg-deb default
> > > compressor from gzip to xz, as ther
On Tue, May 07, 2013 at 09:49:03PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> If there's people who are still worried about that, I'd ask them to
> file bugs on the base packages to make them pass -Zgz explicitly to
> dpkg-deb (I'll do that for dpkg.deb in any case), and I can wait for
> the base system to be s
On Wed, May 08, 2013 at 11:17:39AM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 05/07/2013 21:49, Guillem Jover wrote:
> > As mentioned some months ago [0], I'm planning to switch dpkg-deb default
> > compressor from gzip to xz, as there seemed to be consensus that was
> > the way to go, and given
Hi,
On 05/07/2013 21:49, Guillem Jover wrote:
> As mentioned some months ago [0], I'm planning to switch dpkg-deb default
> compressor from gzip to xz, as there seemed to be consensus that was
> the way to go, and given the amount of already manually switched
> packages, or packaging helpers. :/
>
On 8 May 2013 01:46, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, 07 May 2013, Guillem Jover wrote:
>> As mentioned some months ago [0], I'm planning to switch dpkg-deb default
>> compressor from gzip to xz, as there seemed to be consensus that was
>> the way to go, and given the amount of already man
Hi,
On Tue, 07 May 2013, Guillem Jover wrote:
> As mentioned some months ago [0], I'm planning to switch dpkg-deb default
> compressor from gzip to xz, as there seemed to be consensus that was
> the way to go, and given the amount of already manually switched
> packages, or packaging helpers. :/
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