Re: Software Patents

2006-06-03 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 10:24:45PM +0200, Cesare Leonardi wrote: > One of the terrible effect of software patents is that nobody knows if > his program infringe some of them in some country. And, as you said, i > think it's impossible to be completely patent-free as things stand now. However, do

Re: Software Patents: Was: Re: Re: Is anyone packaging `lame' ?

2006-06-02 Thread Cesare Leonardi
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 05:23:51PM +0200, Cesare Leonardi wrote: I am for the radical way, to keep Debian completely free, libre. If I'm understanding you correctly on this (i.e. remove from Debian every software which has parts covered by software patents), this is a

Re: Software Patents: Was: Re: Re: Is anyone packaging `lame' ?

2006-06-02 Thread Osamu Aoki
I claim not being expert on this subject. But this argument seems rehash of ones done in debian-legal and debian-user. On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 05:23:51PM +0200, Cesare Leonardi wrote: ... > Remaining on the multimedia side, if mp3 is covered by numerous patents > that implementing a codec cannot

Re: Software Patents: Was: Re: Re: Is anyone packaging `lame' ?

2006-06-02 Thread Chris Walters
Reinhard Tartler wrote: > Only if they are enforcable in court. Regarding many multimedia related > software, there is indeed an ugly lot of software patents around, and it > is very unclear if they would succeed in court if somebody would > distribute software which implement ideas described by a

Re: Software Patents: Was: Re: Re: Is anyone packaging `lame' ?

2006-06-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 05:23:51PM +0200, Cesare Leonardi wrote: > I am for the radical way, to keep Debian completely free, libre. If I'm understanding you correctly on this (i.e. remove from Debian every software which has parts covered by software patents), this is a complete nonsense. It will

Re: Software Patents: Was: Re: Re: Is anyone packaging `lame' ?

2006-06-02 Thread Cesare Leonardi
Reinhard Tartler wrote: I don't think debian has decided on a more or less 'official' position regarding software patents. There many packages in debian, which are suspected to implement many ideas described by software patents. I don't know of any case were debian had to explain in court. This c

Re: Software Patents: Was: Re: Re: Is anyone packaging `lame' ?

2006-06-02 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Chris Walters wrote: > Software code can be copyrighted, but that is an easy thing to get > around - even if you got your original idea from some copyrighted code. > Patents are not easy to get around. They totally protect all > implementations of the procedures used to do x (whatever x is). Onl

Re: Software Patents in Europe

2003-08-26 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 01:35:31PM +0200, Daniel K. Gebhart wrote: > What do you think about setting a sign [1]against Software Patents on > our website? Argh, I should have know that there'll be someone who would misuse debian-devel for this. See -project! -- 2. That which causes joy or h

Re: Software Patents in Europe

2003-08-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Glenn McGrath ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030826 15:05]: > On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:58:10 +0200 > Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > SPAM doesn't get better if done for a "good thing". > > > > (That doesn't stop me of writing letters to Members of European > > Parliament e.g., but your mail is

Re: Software Patents in Europe

2003-08-26 Thread Glenn McGrath
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:58:10 +0200 Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SPAM doesn't get better if done for a "good thing". > > (That doesn't stop me of writing letters to Members of European > Parliament e.g., but your mail is absolutly misdirected at d-d.) Software patents do restrict wh

Re: Software Patents in Europe

2003-08-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Daniel K. Gebhart ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030826 13:50]: > What do you think about setting a sign [1]against Software Patents on > our website? I think the time has come to get more active against software > patents. Due to the directive validating Software Patents that will be > voted this 1st Se

Re: Software Patents in Europe

2003-08-26 Thread Daniel K. Gebhart
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 01:58:10PM +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SPAM doesn't get better if done for a "good thing". Funny declaration to SPAM. ;-) > (That doesn't stop me of writing letters to Members of European > Parliament e.g., but your mail is absolutly misdirected at d