Re: Re: piece of mind

2014-10-24 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Josselin Mouette: > Said otherwise, it is not possible to write a reliable service manager > without integrating it to what happens in process #1. > s/is/was/. Today, you have prctl(PR_SET_CHILD_SUBREAPER) to declare yourself as a pseudo-init to the processes you fork off -- that patch is fr

Re: Re: piece of mind

2014-10-24 Thread Cameron Norman
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > You know, or at least should know, as well as I that one can > centralize the code to do all of those things, and abstract them out > of > daemons into a service manager, without

Re: Re: piece of mind

2014-10-24 Thread Josselin Mouette
Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: You know, or at least should know, as well as I that one can centralize the code to do all of those things, and abstract them out of daemons into a service manager, without that service manager being process #1. I don’t know wh

Re: Re: piece of mind

2014-10-24 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
The Wanderer: This is the problem. The init system should not be providing > "features" which other software might, post-boot and pre-shutdown, > want to make use of. (AFAIK sysvinit never did, and most - possibly > all? - of the other init-system candidates don't either.) Such > features shou