Re: Re: Include on first iso: m-a, build essential, kernel headers

2008-07-18 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 22:29 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > I'm wondering... do we have binary packages for all kernel modules we have > (free) -source packages for so that such kernel modules don't need to be > built by users ? No, but *most* of them are built by linux-modules-extra-2.6 or linux-mo

Re: Re: Include on first iso: m-a, build essential, kernel headers

2008-07-17 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Zitat von "brian m. carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:53:24PM +0200, richs wrote: I think that including headers, m-a and build essential would be a good move for the developers. Other distros have out-of-the-box non-free and proprietary apps/drivers/codecs, I woul

Re: Re: Include on first iso: m-a, build essential, kernel headers

2008-07-16 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 08:21:14PM +, brian m. carlson a écrit : > > Non-free (and contrib) packages are not part of Debian and are therefore > not shipped on Debian CDs or DVDs. I understand your frustration with > not being able to use your wireless card out of the box; I have the same > pr

Re: Re: Re: Include on first iso: m-a, build essential, kernel headers

2008-07-16 Thread richs
Hi Fjp: I am surprised that the dependencies are on the image, as I have always been met with problems trying to install build-essential from the first iso. I will post the output from the terminal on my next fresh install of Lenny and Etch. I can assure you that on an http download i386 is

Re: Re: Include on first iso: m-a, build essential, kernel headers

2008-07-16 Thread Frans Pop
richs wrote: > Hi, basically I am requesting module-assistant, build-essential and the > kernel headers for the default kernel on the first iso. I really don't have a clue what you're going on about then. If you check these pages, you'll see that all three package you name _are_ on the first CD

Re: Re: Include on first iso: m-a, build essential, kernel headers

2008-07-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 08:21:14PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:53:24PM +0200, richs wrote: >> I think that including headers, m-a and build essential would be a good >> move for the developers. Other distros have out-of-the-box non-free >> and proprietary apps/dr

Re: Re: Include on first iso: m-a, build essential, kernel headers

2008-07-16 Thread brian m. carlson
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:53:24PM +0200, richs wrote: I think that including headers, m-a and build essential would be a good move for the developers. Other distros have out-of-the-box non-free and proprietary apps/drivers/codecs, I would just like to see Debian offer a complete base on tha

Re: Re: Include on first iso: m-a, build essential, kernel headers

2008-07-16 Thread richs
Hi, basically I am requesting module-assistant, build-essential and the kernel headers for the default kernel on the first iso. These are basic tools that are necessary to be able to install non-free, proprietary packages such as madwifi, nvidia-drivers etc. My main point is the wireless issue