Re: RSA vs ECDSA (Was: Bits from keyring-maint: Pushing keyring updates. Let us bury your old 1024D key!)

2014-03-22 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 05 Mar 2014, peter green wrote: > Also ECDSA shares with DSA the serious disadvantage over RSA that > making signatures on a system with a broken RNG can reveal the key. I believe that we should avoid ECDSA gnupg keys and subkeys like the plague for the time being. You'd most likely get E

Re: RSA vs ECDSA (Was: Bits from keyring-maint: Pushing keyring updates. Let us bury your old 1024D key!)

2014-03-06 Thread Ian Jackson
Helmut Grohne writes ("Re: RSA vs ECDSA (Was: Bits from keyring-maint: Pushing keyring updates. Let us bury your old 1024D key!)"): > ECDSA is a DSA algorithm and therefore relies on the creation of secure > random numbers. It has this problem, that if you happen to choose the &

Re: RSA vs ECDSA (Was: Bits from keyring-maint: Pushing keyring updates. Let us bury your old 1024D key!)

2014-03-06 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 02:33:23PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Umh, I feel I have to answer this message, but I clearly don't have > enough information to do so in an authoritative way¹. AIUI, ECDSA has > not been shown to be *stronger* than RSA ??? RSA works based on modulus > operations, ECDSA on

Re: RSA vs ECDSA (Was: Bits from keyring-maint: Pushing keyring updates. Let us bury your old 1024D key!)

2014-03-05 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 08:29:37AM +0100, Ondrej Surý wrote: > On Tue, Mar 4, 2014, at 21:33, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > Ondrej Surý dijo [Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 08:10:47PM +0100]: > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014, at 19:13, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > > > As keyring maintainers, we no longer consider 1024D keys to

Re: RSA vs ECDSA (Was: Bits from keyring-maint: Pushing keyring updates. Let us bury your old 1024D key!)

2014-03-04 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Tue, Mar 4, 2014, at 21:33, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Ondřej Surý dijo [Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 08:10:47PM +0100]: > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014, at 19:13, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > > As keyring maintainers, we no longer consider 1024D keys to be > > > trustable. We are not yet mass-removing them, because we don

Re: RSA vs ECDSA (Was: Bits from keyring-maint: Pushing keyring updates. Let us bury your old 1024D key!)

2014-03-04 Thread Ondřej Surý
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014, at 7:58, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 06:54:53AM +, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > > Also ECDSA shares with DSA the serious disadvantage over RSA that making > > > signatures on a system with a broken RNG can reveal the key. > > Care to share a source? I thought

Re: RSA vs ECDSA (Was: Bits from keyring-maint: Pushing keyring updates. Let us bury your old 1024D key!)

2014-03-04 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 06:54:53AM +, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > Also ECDSA shares with DSA the serious disadvantage over RSA that making > > signatures on a system with a broken RNG can reveal the key. > Care to share a source? I thought that RSA would be vulnerable to poor RNG as > well. The a

Re: RSA vs ECDSA (Was: Bits from keyring-maint: Pushing keyring updates. Let us bury your old 1024D key!)

2014-03-04 Thread Ondřej Surý
On 5. 3. 2014, at 5:54, peter green wrote: >> >> I am not sure what's the timeframe for GnuPG 2.1.0[1] release, but would >> it be possible to skip the RSA and go directly for ECDSA, before we >> start deprecating DSA? Or at least have an option to do so? (Well, >> unless GnuPG 2.1 release is to

Re: RSA vs ECDSA (Was: Bits from keyring-maint: Pushing keyring updates. Let us bury your old 1024D key!)

2014-03-04 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 08:10:47PM +0100, Ondrej Surý wrote: > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014, at 19:13, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > As keyring maintainers, we no longer consider 1024D keys to be > > trustable. We are not yet mass-removing them, because we don't want to > > hamper the project's work, but we defini

Re: RSA vs ECDSA

2014-03-04 Thread Christoph Egger
Moin! Gunnar Wolf writes: > Ondřej Surý dijo [Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 08:10:47PM +0100]: >> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014, at 19:13, Gunnar Wolf wrote: >> > As keyring maintainers, we no longer consider 1024D keys to be >> > trustable. We are not yet mass-removing them, because we don't want to >> > hamper th

Re: RSA vs ECDSA (Was: Bits from keyring-maint: Pushing keyring updates. Let us bury your old 1024D key!)

2014-03-04 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Ondřej Surý dijo [Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 08:10:47PM +0100]: > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014, at 19:13, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > As keyring maintainers, we no longer consider 1024D keys to be > > trustable. We are not yet mass-removing them, because we don't want to > > hamper the project's work, but we definitiv