Re: Questions to testing/unstable

2001-05-08 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 02:34:52PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > FWIW, I do all my development under testing. I virtually ignore unstable > > unless I need a specific package from it. > AFAIK, I cannot do that. If I build against testing, I help the breakage by > adding yet anothe

Re: Questions to testing/unstable

2001-05-08 Thread Brian May
> "Herbert" == Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Herbert> That means the library maintainer has stuffed up. If Herbert> he's done it properly, his libraries can go into testing Herbert> wihtout having to wait for all its users to recompile. Herbert> This used to be insign

Re: Questions to testing/unstable

2001-05-08 Thread Herbert Xu
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 08 May 2001, Herbert Xu wrote: >> >> FWIW, I do all my development under testing. I virtually ignore unstable >> unless I need a specific package from it. > AFAIK, I cannot do that. If I build against testing, I help the breakage

Re: Questions to testing/unstable

2001-05-08 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 08 May 2001, Sam Hartman wrote: > Henrique> AFAIK, I cannot do that. If I build against testing, I > Henrique> help the breakage by adding yet another package that > Henrique> depends on the outdated libraries that are in testing, > Or your could do shared library versions corr

Re: Questions to testing/unstable

2001-05-08 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Henrique" == Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Henrique> AFAIK, I cannot do that. If I build against testing, I Henrique> help the breakage by adding yet another package that Henrique> depends on the outdated libraries that are in testing, Henrique> th

Re: Questions to testing/unstable

2001-05-08 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 07 May 2001, Michael Meskes wrote: > On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 01:51:12PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > Most of us don't bother too much with testing, unless we're trying to get > > something into testing for one particular reason or another (such as, the > > package in testin

Re: Questions to testing/unstable

2001-05-08 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 08 May 2001, Herbert Xu wrote: > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Most of us don't bother too much with testing, unless we're trying to get > > something into testing for one particular reason or another (such as, the > > package in testing is too damn buggy, or ha

Re: Questions to testing/unstable

2001-05-08 Thread Andreas Metzler
Paul Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Possible scenario: >> 1.0-3 has some major changes and accidentially fixes an RC-bug in >> 1.0-2, before _anybody_ noticed it in 1.0-2. >> 1.0-2 goes into testing and BLAM. > Surely, the maintainer can then close (or downgrade) the RC bug, saying > it's fi

Re: Questions to testing/unstable

2001-05-08 Thread Paul Martin
On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 07:34:32AM +, Andreas Metzler wrote: > Possible scenario: > 1.0-3 has some major changes and accidentially fixes an RC-bug in > 1.0-2, before _anybody_ noticed it in 1.0-2. > 1.0-2 goes into testing and BLAM. Surely, the maintainer can then close (or downgrade) the RC

Re: Questions to testing/unstable

2001-05-08 Thread Herbert Xu
Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Previously Anthony Towns wrote: >> That's not true at all. It's quite possible (although probably a little >> unlikely) to maintain your packages from a box running stable, if you like. > I'ld rather not see people do that: it means we'll also be stuck

Re: Questions to testing/unstable

2001-05-08 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Anthony Towns wrote: > That's not true at all. It's quite possible (although probably a little > unlikely) to maintain your packages from a box running stable, if you like. I'ld rather not see people do that: it means we'll also be stuck with using old libraries when much newer ones mig

Re: Questions to testing/unstable

2001-05-08 Thread Petr Cech
On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 07:29:31PM +1000 , Anthony Towns wrote: > On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 11:05:49AM +0200, Petr Cech wrote: > > On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 06:42:33PM +1000 , Herbert Xu wrote: > > > FWIW, I do all my development under testing. I virtually ignore unstable > > > unless I need a specifi

Re: Questions to testing/unstable

2001-05-08 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 11:05:49AM +0200, Petr Cech wrote: > On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 06:42:33PM +1000 , Herbert Xu wrote: > > FWIW, I do all my development under testing. I virtually ignore unstable > > unless I need a specific package from it. > but autobuilders will still compile with unstable,

Re: Questions to testing/unstable

2001-05-08 Thread Petr Cech
On Tue, May 08, 2001 at 06:42:33PM +1000 , Herbert Xu wrote: > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Most of us don't bother too much with testing, unless we're trying to get > > something into testing for one particular reason or another (such as, the > > package in testing

Re: Questions to testing/unstable

2001-05-08 Thread Petr Cech
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 08:25:53PM +0200 , Michael Meskes wrote: > > Most of us don't bother too much with testing, unless we're trying to get > > something into testing for one particular reason or another (such as, the > > package in testing is too damn buggy, or has a security hole). > > Whow!

Re: Questions to testing/unstable

2001-05-08 Thread Herbert Xu
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Most of us don't bother too much with testing, unless we're trying to get > something into testing for one particular reason or another (such as, the > package in testing is too damn buggy, or has a security hole). FWIW, I do all my develop

Re: Questions to testing/unstable

2001-05-08 Thread Andreas Metzler
Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Why isn't it possible to move 1.0-2 > after one week even though 1.0-3 exists in unstable? Hello! Because 1.0-2 was not tested properly. After 1.0-3 is released nobody uses 1.0-2 anymore, bugs in 1.0-2 but not in 1.0-3 won't be found. Possible sc

Re: Questions to testing/unstable

2001-05-08 Thread Michael Meskes
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 01:51:12PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > Developers are supposed to know what they're doing with the urgency field. > It can be used to decrease the quarantine time of a particular upload (and > all subsequent ones until the package manages to get installed in

Re: Questions to testing/unstable

2001-05-07 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 02:49:36PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > Let's say it takes one week for a package to make it from unstable to > testing. So what happens if package foo_1.0-1.deb is in testing and > foo_1.0-2.deb is uploaded and then after five days foo_1.0-3.deb is uploaded > to unstable.

Re: Questions to testing/unstable

2001-05-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 07 May 2001, Michael Meskes wrote: > to unstable. What happens if no grave bug exists againts foo? Is 1.0-2 moved > to testing after 7 days, or is 1.0-3 moved or do the seven days start anew The quarantine time is restarted every upload. > If it is also true with no grave bug, we should e