Re: Pronouns (was Re: Proposed Constitution)

1998-04-30 Thread Jules Bean
--On Thu, Apr 30, 1998 1:03 pm +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I´m did a little research and nobody here at my university I ask (not > too many people, and not represantive, but FWIW) did know this use > of "they". > > I would really appreciate a list of word explanations, as reading > english

Re: Pronouns (was Re: Proposed Constitution)

1998-04-30 Thread Marcus . Brinkmann
I´m did a little research and nobody here at my university I ask (not too many people, and not represantive, but FWIW) did know this use of "they". I would really appreciate a list of word explanations, as reading english legal texts is hard. I´m willing to learn new stuff, but I hope that Ian ca

Re: Pronouns (was Re: Proposed Constitution)

1998-04-30 Thread Raul Miller
Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hope you are well aware of the fact that a lot of people will not > understand it, and probably will ask you about it. I can tell you that most > german readers may be confused. I don't know about other countries, but I > assume the situation is not v

Re: Pronouns (was Re: Proposed Constitution)

1998-04-29 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Tue, Apr 28, 1998 at 05:02:57PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > This discussion is ridiculous. > > In my view singular `they' is perfectly correct. If I can use it in > my PhD thesis (with a footnote[1] and supporting references, and > without any complaint from the examiners) then we can use it h

Pronouns (was Re: Proposed Constitution)

1998-04-28 Thread Ian Jackson
This discussion is ridiculous. In my view singular `they' is perfectly correct. If I can use it in my PhD thesis (with a footnote[1] and supporting references, and without any complaint from the examiners) then we can use it here. Furthermore, language is defined by use, not by prescription (try

Re: Proposed Constitution

1998-04-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 08:37:42AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am sorry to burst that bubble, but do you care to centest that argument > with my english teacher? > > "they" is a plural non-gender pronoun. When writing in formal english, it > is required thatspecific formal pronouns be use

Re: Proposed Constitution

1998-04-28 Thread Alex Romosan
> I say everybody is too paranoid. Who cares what it looks like? Do ^ >it effectively and use the most common method, whoever's toes it steps on. >Don't be afraid to put "he" because somebody will surely slander you for >you

Re: Proposed Constitution

1998-04-28 Thread vanco
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 28 Apr 1998, Jules Bean wrote: I must apologize, I was the one that fueled this technical jargon battle. I personally don't care. My bad ;) "Like father like son" - --- Aar

Re: Proposed Constitution

1998-04-28 Thread Jules Bean
--On Mon, Apr 27, 1998 8:29 pm -0400 "Bob Hilliard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> "They" is not only a singular, it is also widely accepted as a singular >> pronoun, and has been used as such by not only ordinary people but also >> great writers for hund

Re: Proposed Constitution

1998-04-28 Thread Bob Hilliard
Mark Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "They" is not only a singular, it is also widely accepted as a singular > pronoun, and has been used as such by not only ordinary people but also > great writers for hundreds of years. All of my dictionaries give "nominative plural of he, she, or it" a

Re: Proposed Constitution

1998-04-28 Thread robert havoc pennington
On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, Bob Hilliard wrote: > I suggest that Section B. "Use of language and typography" be > amended to include a statement similar to "Where the context permits, > the masculine shall include the feminine, and the singular shall > include the plural". Then all of the clumsy co

Re: Proposed Constitution

1998-04-27 Thread Jules Bean
--On Mon, Apr 27, 1998 8:37 am -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, Mark Baker wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 06:05:51PM -0400, Bob Hilliard wrote: >> > include the plural". Then all of the clumsy constructions using >> > plural pron

Re: Proposed Constitution

1998-04-27 Thread vanco
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, Mark Baker wrote: > On Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 06:05:51PM -0400, Bob Hilliard wrote: > > include the plural". Then all of the clumsy constructions using > > plural pronouns (they, their) to refer to singular entities (Leader, > > Secretary, et

Re: Proposed Constitution

1998-04-27 Thread Mark Baker
On Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 06:05:51PM -0400, Bob Hilliard wrote: > include the plural". Then all of the clumsy constructions using > plural pronouns (they, their) to refer to singular entities (Leader, > Secretary, etc.) should be changed to use singular masculine pronouns > (him, his). "They" is no