On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 08:56:37AM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote:
Nobody should be checking forward == reverse(forward), it is
reverse == forward(reverse) that is important.
s/is important/was important/
Mike Stone
Stephen Zander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The fact that forwrd DNS != reverse DNS. That is, the PTR record
Nobody should be checking forward == reverse(forward), it is
reverse == forward(reverse) that is important.
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> "Georg" == Georg Lehner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Georg> ... What would be wrong with multiple A records in this
Georg> case?
The fact that forwrd DNS != reverse DNS. That is, the PTR record
won't necessarily match the name that produced the A record. While
not broken, it can ha
Hello!
El vie, 29-11-2002 a las 16:38, Joel Baker escribió:
...
> And, by the way, that *is* one of the uses of a CNAME. To allow things such
> as service names (www, ftp, etc) to point to a single IP, which might have
> one of those names, or something else, as it's formal name.
...
What would
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 01:11:34PM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
> because with a A record one lookup -> IP address(es)
> with a CNAME one lookup -> another lookup -> IP address(es)
>
> CNAME cause you to at least DOUBLE the DNS lookups, DOUBLING the
> potential timeouts, DOUBLING dns load
N
"John H. Robinson, IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> because with a A record one lookup -> IP address(es)
> with a CNAME one lookup -> another lookup -> IP address(es)
>
> CNAME cause you to at least DOUBLE the DNS lookups, DOUBLING the
> potential timeouts, DOUBLING dns load
>
> can you do it?
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 07:39:02PM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
> Ben Armstrong wrote:
>
> > Bah, that's what CNAME is for.
>
> that is _NOT_ what a CNAME is for. a CNAME is for when the hostname is
> in a domain that is OUTSIDE of your control.
>
> ie: evil.debian.org -> www.msn.com = CN
Russell Coker wrote:
> >
> > that is _NOT_ what a CNAME is for. a CNAME is for when the hostname is
> > in a domain that is OUTSIDE of your control.
> >
> > ie: evil.debian.org -> www.msn.com = CNAME (we don't control the msn.com
> > domain)
> > forge.debian.org -> quantz.debian.org = A (we control
"John H. Robinson, IV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote:
> > I like maintaining the idea of forge, so my proposal is VULCAN
> > (from Roman mithology).
>
> i prefer greek: hephaistos
I prefer Greek too, but that means spelling it in Greek. :)
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 02:25:28PM +0100, Peter Mathiasson wrote:
> > > And there's already a Sibelius as a commercial software project; stay
> > > away from things that could raise trademark issues that way.
> >
> > This isn't about our sourceforge fork package name, it's about the machine
> > na
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 02:15:05PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > And there's already a Sibelius as a commercial software project; stay
> > away from things that could raise trademark issues that way.
>
> This isn't about our sourceforge fork package name, it's about the machine
> name.
I thought
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 09:44:17AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > > > - Another idea I had was something along the lines of Debsmith or
> > > > Iansmith, to keep both the idea of Debian and the idea of the forge.
> > > > Unfortunately, plenty of people are called that way. Any idea to
> > >
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 09:44:17AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> And there's already a Sibelius as a commercial software project; stay
> away from things that could raise trademark issues that way.
I don't think the existence of a commercial product called Sibelius
prevents us from naming our ma
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 12:58:12PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 07:07:45AM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:03:58AM +0100, Roland Mas wrote:
> > > - Another idea I had was something along the lines of Debsmith or
> > > Iansmith, to keep both the idea
On Fri, 29 Nov 2002 04:39, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
> Ben Armstrong wrote:
> > Bah, that's what CNAME is for.
>
> that is _NOT_ what a CNAME is for. a CNAME is for when the hostname is
> in a domain that is OUTSIDE of your control.
>
> ie: evil.debian.org -> www.msn.com = CNAME (we don't control
Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Le Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 01:57:16PM +0100, Jérôme Marant écrivait:
I hope it is for packaging activities and debian-related stuff only.
Not really. It is for any free software related project launched by
a Debian developer (ie the project request should come from a Deb
Ben Armstrong wrote:
> Bah, that's what CNAME is for.
that is _NOT_ what a CNAME is for. a CNAME is for when the hostname is
in a domain that is OUTSIDE of your control.
ie: evil.debian.org -> www.msn.com = CNAME (we don't control the msn.com
domain)
forge.debian.org -> quantz.debian.org = A (w
Le Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 01:57:16PM +0100, Jérôme Marant écrivait:
> I hope it is for packaging activities and debian-related stuff only.
Not really. It is for any free software related project launched by
a Debian developer (ie the project request should come from a Debian
developer).
Of course,
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 04:54:04PM +0100, Roland Mas wrote:
> Oh, and by the way, it can't be quantz, since it won't have the same
> IP address.
IMHO we should go with a french composer (or whatever the scheme was) as
the machine name, and something simple like 'sf' as the service name.
Michael
#include
* Roland Mas [Wed, Nov 27 2002, 11:03:58AM]:
> The code is almost ready, the server itself should be OK soon (if
> not already), and Wichert and I even managed to find a time where both
> of us can be on the same IRC network at the same time.
>
> Now for the *real* important debate:
Ben Armstrong (2002-11-28 11:37:44 -0400) :
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 04:34:45PM +0100, Roland Mas wrote:
>> Ben Armstrong (2002-11-28 11:14:50 -0400) :
>> > Oh, I retract my objection then. If the machine has a name already,
>> > why bother naming the service something obscure? Service names
>>
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 04:34:45PM +0100, Roland Mas wrote:
> Ben Armstrong (2002-11-28 11:14:50 -0400) :
> > Oh, I retract my objection then. If the machine has a name already,
> > why bother naming the service something obscure? Service names
> > should be easy to remember.
>
> Think "non-us"
Ben Armstrong (2002-11-28 11:14:50 -0400) :
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 04:11:26PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
>> The machine itself has a name already (quantz).
>
> Oh, I retract my objection then. If the machine has a name already,
> why bother naming the service something obscure? Service nam
> The machine itself has a name already (quantz).
yes :) but maybe it will be better to do some IN A records? In this way,
ping cvs.sth.debian.org will ping cvs.sth.debian.org, not
quantz.debian.org (I mean address which ping show).
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On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 04:11:26PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> The machine itself has a name already (quantz).
Oh, I retract my objection then. If the machine has a name already, why
bother naming the service something obscure? Service names should be easy to
remember.
Ben
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* Ben Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-28 10:49]:
> Bah, that's what CNAME is for. We have www. cvs. etc. Sure, give
> the system hosting the service a generic CNAME pointer, but a
> system's canonical name itself has to have some character.
The machine itself has a name already (quantz).
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 05:34:20PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> hey how about something much less cryptic like "forge". Nothing worse than
> having to guess what woman's name some silly coder named the program I am
> looking for.
>
> And since most of us aren't French the names mean very
Josip Rodin wrote:
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 10:54:52AM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
Why does Debian host the Sourceforge site? I don't see anything
between sf.net and debian.org .
You misunderstand. Debian will host _its_own_ sourforge-like
environment, for developers.
Not just for d
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 10:54:52AM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote:
> > Why does Debian host the Sourceforge site? I don't see anything
> > between sf.net and debian.org .
>
> You misunderstand. Debian will host _its_own_ sourforge-like
> environment, for developers.
Not just for developers, for eve
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 06:42:27PM +1100, Drew Parsons wrote:
>
> How about hollin.debian.org, or eregion.debian.org, the Elfen kingdom
> outside Moria (what language was "speak friend, and enter" written in?)
Elfic?
The line below the heading is written in Sindarin, the language of the
elves, i
Hi Oohara!
You wrote:
> Why does Debian host the Sourceforge site? I don't see anything
> between sf.net and debian.org .
You misunderstand. Debian will host _its_own_ sourforge-like
environment, for developers.
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On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 12:01:15PM +0100, Emile van Bergen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:55:56AM +0100, Roberto Suarez Soto wrote:
>
> > On Nov/27, Emile van Bergen wrote:
> >
> > > What about Avalon? Both a composer (well, hmm) and the place where
> > > Excalibur was forged.
> >
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 11:03:58 +0100,
Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As some of you probably know, some people are in the process of
> installing a Sourceforge site on a Debian machine. It will consist of
> a slightly patched version of the 2.6 branch of the Debian package
> "sourceforge"
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 05:34:20PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> On Wednesday 27 November 2002 02:03, Roland Mas wrote:
> > Current candidates include:
> >
>
> hey how about something much less cryptic like "forge". Nothing worse than
> having to guess what woman's name some silly coder na
On Wednesday 27 November 2002 02:03, Roland Mas wrote:
> Current candidates include:
>
hey how about something much less cryptic like "forge". Nothing worse than
having to guess what woman's name some silly coder named the program I am
looking for.
And since most of us aren't French the names
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Marcin Owsiany wrote:
> > He was the God of volcanic fire and of metal work.
>
> Maybe "lemnos"? This is where he used to work...
>
I thought the forge of Vulcan was Mt. Aetna in Sicily? The original
"volcano". Hey there's another Debian connection: we are also known for
pr
Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote:
> I like maintaining the idea of forge, so my proposal is VULCAN
> (from Roman mithology).
i prefer greek: hephaistos
then there is the Celtic mythos: brigid
Irish (Bride in Scotland), great triple goddess. Fire goddess and
crafts-smith. Christians turned he
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:24:10AM +0100, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote:
> I like maintaining the idea of forge, so my proposal is VULCAN
> (from Roman mithology).
> He was the God of volcanic fire and of metal work.
Maybe "lemnos"? This is where he used to work...
Marcin
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On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Michael Furr wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 05:03, Roland Mas wrote:
> > - Another idea I had was something along the lines of Debsmith or
> > Iansmith, to keep both the idea of Debian and the idea of the forge.
> > Unfortunately, plenty of people are called that way. Any
On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 05:03, Roland Mas wrote:
> - Another idea I had was something along the lines of Debsmith or
> Iansmith, to keep both the idea of Debian and the idea of the forge.
> Unfortunately, plenty of people are called that way. Any idea to
> improve that line is welcome. Maybe
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 07:07:45AM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:03:58AM +0100, Roland Mas wrote:
> > - Another idea I had was something along the lines of Debsmith or
> > Iansmith, to keep both the idea of Debian and the idea of the forge.
> > Unfortunately, plenty of p
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:03:58AM +0100, Roland Mas wrote:
[snip]
> - Another idea I had was something along the lines of Debsmith or
> Iansmith, to keep both the idea of Debian and the idea of the forge.
> Unfortunately, plenty of people are called that way. Any idea to
> improve that line
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:55:56AM +0100, Roberto Suarez Soto wrote:
> On Nov/27, Emile van Bergen wrote:
>
> > What about Avalon? Both a composer (well, hmm) and the place where
> > Excalibur was forged.
>
> Being about forging, "Orodruin" comes also to mind ;-)
Yes, although there'
On Nov/27, Emile van Bergen wrote:
> What about Avalon? Both a composer (well, hmm) and the place where
> Excalibur was forged.
Being about forging, "Orodruin" comes also to mind ;-)
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Hi,
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:03:58AM +0100, Roland Mas wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As some of you probably know, some people are in the process of
> installing a Sourceforge site on a Debian machine. It will consist of
> a slightly patched version of the 2.6 branch of the Debian package
> "sourc
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:03:58AM +0100, Roland Mas wrote:
> Current candidates include:
> - Actarus: Actarus is the pilot of Goldorak/Grendizer/what's it called
> in your language. No particular reason except that it was a very
> famous cartoon here in France some ten-fifteen years ago. Alc
I like maintaining the idea of forge, so my proposal is VULCAN
(from Roman mithology).
He was the God of volcanic fire and of metal work. He was
the son of Hera (and maybe Zeus).(Some say that Hera gave
birth to Hephaestus alone because she was angry with Zeus,
because Athena was born out of Zeus'
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 11:03:58 +0100
Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - Your idea here.
>
Trinity, re the Matrix
Glenn
Roland,
Roland> - Your idea here.
What about 'meiinoar' which means 'together' in frisian (a language, some argue
a dialect ;), in the Netherlands)...
Regards,
Arjen
Roland Mas wrote:
Hi all,
Hello,
As some of you probably know, some people are in the process of
installing a Sourceforge site on a Debian machine. It will consist of
a slightly patched version of the 2.6 branch of the Debian package
"sourceforge", with a few scripts to help integration with
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