Re: Opt-out or Opt-in vebose build logs Re: jessie release goal: verbose build logs

2013-08-15 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 13.08.2013 21:10, schrieb Adam Borowski: > So I guess it would be best to put the threshold at automated vs > human-supervised builds. What about setting the flag per-tool rather than > per-deployment? For example, pbuilder would default to verbose (as you > can't restart builds) while dpkg-bu

Re: Opt-out or Opt-in vebose build logs Re: jessie release goal: verbose build logs

2013-08-15 Thread Joey Hess
Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > We have build log analyzers running for the build logs. Checking heuristically for problems you know about does not help find the class of problems you don't know about yet. > How about a new DEB_BUILD_OPTION="silent" which opts into silent build > log? Does that sound r

Re: Opt-out or Opt-in vebose build logs Re: jessie release goal: verbose build logs

2013-08-14 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Adam Borowski angband.pl> writes: > Non-spammy builds are better for builds done by a human. No. They’re better for builds done by the developers of the upstream software on their own systems where they know what they’re doing. And even then, it’s a big maybe. Every other human is a packager

Re: Opt-out or Opt-in vebose build logs Re: jessie release goal: verbose build logs

2013-08-13 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 08:30:16PM +0200, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > In controlled environments, one doesn't get to re-run a build, as the > instances are stripped-down and destroyed on build failure E.g. all > the jenkins instances running debian package builds, PPAs, > auto-package-tests, automate

Re: Opt-out or Opt-in vebose build logs Re: jessie release goal: verbose build logs

2013-08-13 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 13 August 2013 19:59, Julien Cristau wrote: > [why oh why are you breaking threading?] > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 19:51:52 +0200, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > >> We have build log analyzers running for the build logs. And the >> important compiler warnings (errors) fail the build. >> If we make t

Re: Opt-out or Opt-in vebose build logs Re: jessie release goal: verbose build logs

2013-08-13 Thread Julien Cristau
[why oh why are you breaking threading?] On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 19:51:52 +0200, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > We have build log analyzers running for the build logs. And the > important compiler warnings (errors) fail the build. > If we make this opt-in, we will fail to achieve this goal. As when on