Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-29 Thread brian m. carlson
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 05:52:06PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > Outside of dpkg, sqlite in non-WAL mode, other databases and virtualbox/ > qemu, btrfs is pretty fast. That may be true, but it glosses over how awful performance is on those workloads on btrfs. A single Berkeley DB transaction can

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-29 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 04:32:33PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2012-11-29 16:16:25 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > *cough* btrfs -ocompress=lzo. Small files are packed inline in metadata > > blocks, and you get compression you wanted. Using lzo is faster than no > > compression for most lo

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2012-11-29 16:16:25 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > *cough* btrfs -ocompress=lzo. Small files are packed inline in metadata > blocks, and you get compression you wanted. Using lzo is faster than no > compression for most loads, adding negligible cost for incompressible data > (especially if not

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-29 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 04:16:25PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > *cough* btrfs -ocompress=lzo. Small files are packed inline in metadata > blocks, and you get compression you wanted. It's nice to see more features from '93 Windows NT implemented for Linux at last. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-29 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 03:20:34PM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2012-11-29 01:28:37 +0100, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > > But it also has disadvantages to the mbox formats which may be crucial > > for some people: > > - wasting a lot of storage, which can be significant even if you use >

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2012-11-29 15:30:47 +0100, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > On Thu, 2012-11-29 at 15:20 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > Now, I would say that in general, the wasted space is small compared > > to large attachments. And if you have only text and care about disk > > space, you should consider a

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-29 Thread Ryan Kavanagh
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 03:30:47PM +0100, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > Do these tools (mairix, notmuch, etc.) also help with real full text > search? I just though they'd index some stuff. I can't speak for mairix, etc., but notmuch can handle full text search. To quote from notmuch-search-te

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-29 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Thu, 2012-11-29 at 15:20 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2012-11-29 01:28:37 +0100, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > > But it also has disadvantages to the mbox formats which may be crucial > > for some people: > > - wasting a lot of storage, which can be significant even if you use > > smal

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2012-11-29 01:28:37 +0100, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > But it also has disadvantages to the mbox formats which may be crucial > for some people: > - wasting a lot of storage, which can be significant even if you use > small file systems block sizes... This is a problem with the file syste

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 29 nov 12, 11:35:44, Ivan Shmakov wrote: > > What are the estimates? And wouldn't it be better to use some > kind of a specialized search engine if searching is deemed > “crucial”? I guess that it may render the difference between > the formats somewhat irrelevant.

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-28 Thread jidanni
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Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-28 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Christoph Anton Mitterer writes: […] > But it also has disadvantages to the mbox formats which may be > crucial for some people: > - wasting a lot of storage, which can be significant even if you use > small file systems block sizes... Only as long as static mbox files are co

Re: Maildir vs. mbox in Debian

2012-11-28 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 14:32 +0700, Ivan Shmakov wrote: > > # With the advent and now widespread adoption of the superior Maildir > > # format over the past several years, the entire "mbox" family of > > # mailbox formats is gradually becoming irrelevant, and of only > > # historical interest.