Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2007-04-02 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Mike Hommey schreef: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 10:45:06AM -0500, alfredo diega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >>On 9/21/06, Ben Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>- >>>I can see you're frustrated. You've invested a lot of energy into >>>writing this note to us about a problem you see in

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-09-21 16:42:27, schrieb alfredo diega: > What is the best community distro based on free software that isn't > so free that it doesn't work. I guess that right now is Ubuntu. No Debian ;-) I have tried to run Ubunto as Server (for testing) and failed... So the best community distro bas

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-23 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 11:28:02PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > and reverse engineering. The out-of-tree patches at the > time of 2.6.17 result in much faster transfers to SDHCI > devices. I don't know if dapper has these, and I don't > know if they made 2.6.18. I think that was

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-22 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 22 September 2006 00:42, alfredo diega wrote: > On 9/21/06, Thaddeus H. Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I ask you, is that > > fair? > > Well, I guess it isn't fair. Look, have any of you ever sent an email out > of > frustration, then wish you could take it back? I am sorry, I h

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread Steve Langasek
\ Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 04:42:27PM -0500, alfredo diega wrote: > I just need to loose my pride and switch to Ubuntu. I haven't and I know > the LUG here will laugh at me and tell me "We told you so" but what you > say is true. Different goals. What I was telling my friends was I wanted > to use t

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 21 September 2006 23:58 schrieb Amaya: > I guess you were "blessed" with an ugly piece of hardware with freedom > issues in its support. It is going to take some time until it is ready, > probably in a part of our archive that is labeled as non-free, and > maybe, as you own this hardw

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread Jon Dowland
At 1158835506 past the epoch, alfredo diega wrote: > Next: SD drive, works with Ubuntu with their "free > stuuf." Probably isn't supported by policy either. Without more specifics I can't be sure, but if it's an sdhci device, the driver was merged into mainline starting with 2.6.17. I believe da

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread Amaya
alfredo diega wrote: > Well, I guess it isn't fair. Look, have any of you ever sent an email > out of frustration, then wish you could take it back? I am sorry, I > hope somebody will forgive me. We all have, no big deal. > I just need to loose my pride and switch to Ubuntu. No, you just need

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread alfredo diega
On 9/21/06, Thaddeus H. Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   I ask you, is thatfair? Well, I guess it isn't fair.  Look, have any of you ever sent an email out of frustration, then wish you could take it back?  I am sorry, I hope somebody will forgive me. I just need to loose my pride and switch to

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread Tim Dijkstra
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:45:06 -0500 "alfredo diega" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lastly, suspend doesn't work with Debian but does with Dapper. What kind of suspend? suspend-to-ram (S3), (user space) software suspend to disk? How do you trigger it? FWIW, the kernels in dapper and unstable both ha

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 10:45:06AM -0500, alfredo diega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/21/06, Ben Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >- > >I can see you're frustrated. You've invested a lot of energy into > >writing this note to us about a problem you see in Debian. Now, if it > >real

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread Ben Armstrong
alfredo diega wrote: > Okay: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG. According to this message at > bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=363967 it isn't packaged > because: > > "there is still an official statement of -release and -kernel about the > policy for oot-modules in etch missing." > > showing

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread alfredo diega
On 9/21/06, Ben Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: -I can see you're frustrated.  You've invested a lot of energy intowriting this note to us about a problem you see in Debian.  Now, if itreally does pain you to write it, the least you could do is tell us what your hardware is.  Otherwise, how d

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/21/06 08:46, Ben Armstrong wrote: > Alfredo, > > alfredo diega wrote: >>> It really pains me to write this since I have used stable for a long >>> time. >>> Unfortunately, I think you could use a wakeup call. >>> >>> Much of my hardware is nev

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread Ben Armstrong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alfredo, alfredo diega wrote: > It really pains me to write this since I have used stable for a long > time. > Unfortunately, I think you could use a wakeup call. > > Much of my hardware is never supported by you guys I can see you're frustrated.