Re: Building in chroots hides bugs?

2006-08-06 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: > On Aug 04, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Outside the chroot, where you probably have auto* installed the >> invocation suddenly works and you get a different generated file that >> might or might not fail. > They would immediately f

Re: Building in chroots hides bugs?

2006-08-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 04, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Outside the chroot, where you probably have auto* installed the > invocation suddenly works and you get a different generated file that > might or might not fail. They would immediately fail anyway on the autobuilds. -- ciao, Marco s

Re: Building in chroots hides bugs?

2006-08-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Neil McGovern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 05:37:58PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > also sprach Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1221 +0100]: >> >> Building in chroots *hides* bugs. >> > >> > Uh, what

Re: Building in chroots hides bugs? (was: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools)

2006-08-04 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060801 18:17]: > also sprach Bernhard R. Link <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1701 +0100]: > > Missing $(DESTDIR)s in Makefiles are an example. Especially when the > > install part was DESTDIRified, but the test before if the file is > > already there (as make

Re: Building in chroots hides bugs?

2006-08-01 Thread Brian May
> "Martijn" == Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Martijn> The only example I can think of is programs that use Martijn> configure to include support for anything they can find Martijn> installed. So you get different results depending on Martijn> what's install

Re: Building in chroots hides bugs?

2006-08-01 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 05:37:58PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > also sprach Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1221 +0100]: > >> Building in chroots *hides* bugs. > > > > Uh, what? Please give an example. > > Missing Build-Confli

Re: Building in chroots hides bugs? (was: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools)

2006-08-01 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Bernhard R. Link <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1701 +0100]: > Missing $(DESTDIR)s in Makefiles are an example. Especially when the > install part was DESTDIRified, but the test before if the file is > already there (as make install does not want to overwrite a config file) > was forgo

Re: Building in chroots hides bugs? (was: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools)

2006-08-01 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060801 15:29]: > also sprach Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1221 +0100]: > > Building in chroots *hides* bugs. > > Uh, what? Please give an example. Missing $(DESTDIR)s in Makefiles are an example. Especially when the install part was DESTDIRif

Re: Building in chroots

2006-08-01 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > #include > * Frank Küster [Tue, Aug 01 2006, 01:55:14PM]: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) wrote: >> >> > On Aug 01, Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >> > > Also, pbuilder and debootstrap are considered absolutely critical for >> >> >

Re: Building in chroots hides bugs?

2006-08-01 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > also sprach Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1221 +0100]: >> Building in chroots *hides* bugs. > > Uh, what? Please give an example. Missing Build-Conflicts aren't found. Auto* scripts "fail" to run because they aren't installed. Users,

Re: Building in chroots hides bugs? (was: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools)

2006-08-01 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On 8/1/06, martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: also sprach Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1221 +0100]: > Building in chroots *hides* bugs. Uh, what? Please give an example. The only example I can think of is programs that use configure to include support for anything they

Re: Building in chroots (was: Successful and unsuccessful Debian development tools)

2006-08-01 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Frank Küster [Tue, Aug 01 2006, 01:55:14PM]: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) wrote: > > > On Aug 01, Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > > Also, pbuilder and debootstrap are considered absolutely critical for > >> > > serious work. > >> > That's a bold statement. > >>