On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 08:32:29AM +0200, Sven Bartscher wrote:
Hi
Am 24.09.23 um 18:41 schrieb Salvo Tomaselli:
Without an ftpteam hat on, but my point of view -- I believe the team
would absolutely reject a package only based on its name (see:
#914179).
Not very consistently though:
$ apt
> Can you please clarify what problem you see with these package names?
> The results I get for this search are:
>
> apt search penis | grep --color penis
I see no problem whatsoever, that was the point I was making. Sorry that it
wasn't more clear.
The bug linked in the email I replied to, r
Hi
Am 24.09.23 um 18:41 schrieb Salvo Tomaselli:
Without an ftpteam hat on, but my point of view -- I believe the team
would absolutely reject a package only based on its name (see:
#914179).
Not very consistently though:
$ apt search penis | grep penis | wc -l
2
Can you please clarify what
> Without an ftpteam hat on, but my point of view -- I believe the team
> would absolutely reject a package only based on its name (see:
> #914179).
Not very consistently though:
$ apt search penis | grep penis | wc -l
2
And that's without considering that every language has hundreds of synonyms
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 06:55:03PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
[...]
> More cogently: where are we going to get our fortunes from - where's the
> canonical source now that FreeBSD has gone?
>
> Who is going to take responsibility for checking quotes and translations
> in all languages and dea
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 07:09:00PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 06:06:34PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 02:28:22PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> > https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct.en starts off with:
> >
> > "The Debian Project, the
At 2023-08-23T15:40:06+0100, Adam Sampson wrote:
> "Andrew M.A. Cater" writes:
> > where are we going to get our fortunes from - where's the canonical
> > source now that FreeBSD has gone?
>
> There is Shlomi Fish's version:
> https://github.com/shlomif/fortune-mod/
I've been mulling over whet
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 06:55:03PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> Ubuntu - our "downstream" has abandoned fortunes-off as incompatible with
> their Code of Conduct (which is strikingly similar to ours).
For the record, when I uploaded the change to drop this package from Ubuntu,
what I said was
Jeremy Stanley writes:
> Removing a package from the archive purely on the grounds that it
> contains objectionable text, if such is the reason for not distributing
> it, is making a value judgement of that text. The concerns that have
> been raised so far for objecting to the content of the pack
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 06:06:34PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 02:28:22PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct.en starts off with:
>
> "The Debian Project, the producers of the Debian system, have adopted a
> code of conduct for par
On 2023-08-21 11:43:04 -0700 (-0700), Steve Langasek wrote:
[...]
> Don't you think it's a bit hyperbolic to equate "not distributing
> a text in our archive" to "book burning"?
Removing a package from the archive purely on the grounds that it
contains objectionable text, if such is the reason for
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 05:32:22PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> On 2023-08-21 20:16:22 +0300 (+0300), Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> [...]
> > According to Debian's CoC we use non-offensive ways to communicate
> > within the project, so that everybody is welcome to speak and
> > contribute. But we sho
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 05:32:22PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> On 2023-08-21 20:16:22 +0300 (+0300), Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> [...]
> > According to Debian's CoC we use non-offensive ways to communicate
> > within the project, so that everybody is welcome to speak and
> > contribute. But we sho
On 2023-08-21 20:16:22 +0300 (+0300), Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
[...]
> According to Debian's CoC we use non-offensive ways to communicate
> within the project, so that everybody is welcome to speak and
> contribute. But we should not censor software. If there is a
> misogynistic comment in GNU HURD
On Sat, 19 Aug 2023 at 00:52, Dominik George wrote:
>
> > So, let's at least be consistent.
>
> Totally agree with that.
>
> Debian is not a collection of harmful content, it is an operating system.
>
> But, unfortunately, there are too many people in the project who think, in
> the name of "free
Hi Wouter,
I think that you and I are actually in agreement.
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 06:06:34PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 02:28:22PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 07:11:11PM +0200, Dominik George wrote:
> > > >The mission you have chose
On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 02:28:22PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 07:11:11PM +0200, Dominik George wrote:
> > >The mission you have chosen for yourself, then, is to identify all those
> > >things in the Debian distribution that are not constitutive of an
> > >operating s
On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 10:54:18AM +0200, Dominik George wrote:
> Hi Marvin,
>
> >This is simply and blatantly incorrect. Debian is a distribution.
>
> To some, that is the same.
>
> If you think describing Debian as an "operating system", then for a start,
> you should go and propoae to updat
Hi Marvin,
>This is simply and blatantly incorrect. Debian is a distribution.
To some, that is the same.
If you think describing Debian as an "operating system", then for a start, you
should go and propoae to update the banner on the front page of
https://debian.org/
-nik
* Dominik George [230818 17:52]:
> Debian is not ..., it is an operating system.
This is simply and blatantly incorrect. Debian is a distribution.
It includes an operating system and many, many application packages that
different people find useful or interesting. The vast majority of
packages
On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 02:35:18PM -0400, Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 2:29 PM Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> > The reasons why the FTP masters might reject a package from the archive
> > are public [0]. Nowhere on the list is there an entry that says
> > "somebody doesn't li
On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 2:29 PM Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> The reasons why the FTP masters might reject a package from the archive
> are public [0]. Nowhere on the list is there an entry that says
> "somebody doesn't like this package" or "it has stuff that might offend
> someone" as a valid rea
On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 07:11:11PM +0200, Dominik George wrote:
> >The mission you have chosen for yourself, then, is to identify all those
> >things in the Debian distribution that are not constitutive of an
> >operating system.
>
> That is a major part of the work of a Debian Developer, and the
>The mission you have chosen for yourself, then, is to identify all those
>things in the Debian distribution that are not constitutive of an
>operating system.
That is a major part of the work of a Debian Developer, and the ftp-master team.
Packages are evaluated for eligibility to enter the dist
Dominik George dijo [Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 11:43:03PM +0200]:
> > So, let's at least be consistent.
>
> Totally agree with that.
>
> Debian is not a collection of harmful content, it is an operating system.
>
> But, unfortunately, there are too many people in the project who think, in the
> name
[please direct replies to -project]
At 2023-08-18T14:39:00-0400, Thomas Ward wrote:
> This is no longer appropriate for Debian. Fortunes-off binary package
> has been removed: can we remove the data files, please.
>
> These were questioned by upstream as early as 1997. They contain
> ethnic and h
> "Roberto" == Roberto C Sánchez writes:
Roberto> sources." I mean, if you're going to wave the code of
Roberto> conduct around (or Andy in the case of the initial report),
Roberto> then perhaps we ought to distinguish between what the code
Roberto> of conduct was very clearly
On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 05:27:55PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> Also, if quoting Mein Kampf or anything else from Hitler is problematic,
> then perhaps fortune-anarchism (source package blag-fortune) should also
> be considered for removal. It includes quotes from numerous individuals
> who h
> So, let's at least be consistent.
Totally agree with that.
Debian is not a collection of harmful content, it is an operating system.
But, unfortunately, there are too many people in the project who think, in the
name of "free speech", protecting racists, nazists, and anarchists is more
impor
On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 02:39:00PM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote:
>
>This is not yet removed if I read the changelog from Debian.There are
>additional components in the source code which quote these that suggest it
>may be prudent for a complete deletion. Downstream in Ubuntu, this
>pa
On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 02:39:00PM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote:
> Hello.
>
> Debian Bug #1024501 [1]indicates that data files are present in the
> fortune-mod package which are against Debian policy:
>
>
> Dear Maintainer,
>
> *** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropri
Hello.
Debian Bug #1024501 [1]indicates that data files are present in the
fortune-mod package which are against Debian policy:
Dear Maintainer,
*** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate ***
* What led up to the situation?
As mentioned on Debian-project
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