Re: Pushing multi-arch media (Re: blockers for 64-bit adoption)

2007-04-10 Thread Matthias Julius
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 09:54:20PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: >> Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, Matthias Julius wrote: >> > >> >> I hate to reboot just to try out d-i. :-) >> > >> > Actually, you don't have to.

Re: Pushing multi-arch media (Re: blockers for 64-bit adoption)

2007-04-10 Thread Robert Millan
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 09:54:20PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: > Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, Matthias Julius wrote: > > > >> I hate to reboot just to try out d-i. :-) > > > > Actually, you don't have to. Try qemu. > > Ahh, true. That's another chapter I

Re: Pushing multi-arch media (Re: blockers for 64-bit adoption)

2007-04-09 Thread Matthias Julius
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, Matthias Julius wrote: > >> I hate to reboot just to try out d-i. :-) > > Actually, you don't have to. Try qemu. Ahh, true. That's another chapter I havn't looked into, yet. Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Pushing multi-arch media (Re: blockers for 64-bit adoption)

2007-04-09 Thread Santiago Vila
On Mon, 9 Apr 2007, Matthias Julius wrote: > Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Just a thought, but how about booting d-i and familiarising yourself > > with it? (This goes for all DDs who have never run d-i.) > > I hate to reboot just to try out d-i. :-) Actually, you don't have to. T

Re: Pushing multi-arch media (Re: blockers for 64-bit adoption)

2007-04-09 Thread Matthias Julius
Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Just a thought, but how about booting d-i and familiarising yourself > with it? (This goes for all DDs who have never run d-i.) I hate to reboot just to try out d-i. :-) Now that etch is released I will actually do that. I have one machine left that is no

Re: Pushing multi-arch media (Re: blockers for 64-bit adoption)

2007-04-09 Thread Joey Hess
Matthias Julius wrote: > Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I suppose you haven't seen my previous mail. Note that this problem > > (autodetecting 64-bit) is already solved in etch. > > True. I've read it after I wrot mine. > > Does d-i use syslinux? Just a thought, but how about

Re: Pushing multi-arch media (Re: blockers for 64-bit adoption)

2007-04-09 Thread Robert Millan
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 04:00:45PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: > Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I suppose you haven't seen my previous mail. Note that this problem > > (autodetecting 64-bit) is already solved in etch. > > True. I've read it after I wrot mine. > > Does d-i us

Re: Pushing multi-arch media (Re: blockers for 64-bit adoption)

2007-04-09 Thread Matthias Julius
Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I suppose you haven't seen my previous mail. Note that this problem > (autodetecting 64-bit) is already solved in etch. True. I've read it after I wrot mine. Does d-i use syslinux? Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a sub

Re: Pushing multi-arch media (Re: blockers for 64-bit adoption)

2007-04-09 Thread Robert Millan
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 01:29:59PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes: > > > On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 12:37:16PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: > >> Does d-i need to run in 64bit mode to be able to install a amd64 > >> system? > > > > It needs a 64bit kernel

Re: Pushing multi-arch media (Re: blockers for 64-bit adoption)

2007-04-09 Thread Matthias Julius
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 12:37:16PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: >> Does d-i need to run in 64bit mode to be able to install a amd64 >> system? > > It needs a 64bit kernel to run 64bit binaries, and since many post > installs run binaries, I would say

Re: Pushing multi-arch media (Re: blockers for 64-bit adoption)

2007-04-09 Thread Robert Millan
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 07:17:53PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > syslinux (3.31-2) unstable; urgency=medium > > * Including all *.c32 modules (Closes: #391152). > * Added patch from Byron Stanoszek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to autodetect 64bit > CPUs (Closes: #408138). > > -- Daniel Baumann <[

Re: Pushing multi-arch media (Re: blockers for 64-bit adoption)

2007-04-09 Thread Robert Millan
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 03:51:54PM +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote: > > The multiarch media still has a small problem: for i386/amd64 they are > no "fire and forget" thing; you still need to find out if you have an > amd64 compatible system and start the amd64 boot process by hand. > > It would

Re: Pushing multi-arch media (Re: blockers for 64-bit adoption)

2007-04-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 12:37:16PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: > Does d-i need to run in 64bit mode to be able to install a amd64 > system? It needs a 64bit kernel to run 64bit binaries, and since many post installs run binaries, I would say yes it does. You could probably isntall 32bit using a

Re: Pushing multi-arch media (Re: blockers for 64-bit adoption)

2007-04-09 Thread Matthias Julius
Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 03:51:54PM +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote: >> The multiarch media still has a small problem: for i386/amd64 they are >> no "fire and forget" thing; you still need to find out if you have an >> amd64 compatible system an

Re: Pushing multi-arch media (Re: blockers for 64-bit adoption)

2007-04-09 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 03:51:54PM +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote: > The multiarch media still has a small problem: for i386/amd64 they are > no "fire and forget" thing; you still need to find out if you have an > amd64 compatible system and start the amd64 boot process by hand. > > It would be

Re: Pushing multi-arch media (Re: blockers for 64-bit adoption)

2007-04-09 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 03:51:54PM +0200, Alexander Schmehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > * Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070409 10:00]: > > > > I think we should push the multi-arch media. Particularly, the > > > x86/amd64/powerpc one can boot something like 99% of all the hardware

Re: Pushing multi-arch media (Re: blockers for 64-bit adoption)

2007-04-09 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi! * Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070409 10:00]: > > I think we should push the multi-arch media. Particularly, the > > x86/amd64/powerpc one can boot something like 99% of all the hardware > > debian will ever run on, without the user having to care about what arch > > his PC or Mac is, s

Re: Pushing multi-arch media (Re: blockers for 64-bit adoption)

2007-04-09 Thread Andreas Barth
* Mike Hommey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070409 09:49]: > I think we should push the multi-arch media. Particularly, the > x86/amd64/powerpc one can boot something like 99% of all the hardware > debian will ever run on, without the user having to care about what arch > his PC or Mac is, since the media d