On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:12:10PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Nothing garanties that cron jobs are run at the right time. Running
> it a bit later (whenever you boot) is just like it being delayed due
> to excess load. If there are things that shouldn't be run at the wrong
> time we sho
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 22:00 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Ron Johnson]
> > Soon after you put it in Experimental, installed it, for that very
> > reason.
>
> I got a parse error on this one. I suspect you are unaware that the
> HTTP option is available in unstable, version 1.30.
Yes. But
Helmut Wollmersdorfer wrote:
Graham Wilson wrote:
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:12:10PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
There might eb
cases where it harms but those should be the minority.
Seems to make sense. Are there any cases where having anacron installed
by default would mess somet
Am 2005-07-27 21:59:05, schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen:
> The HTTP upload is sending a gzip-ed version. I'm working on a
> version compressing the emails as well, but the receiving end is yet
> to be written.
>
> If you have little bandwith, use HTTP for now.
I think, my own four ADSL-Lines 8M/512
[Ron Johnson]
> Soon after you put it in Experimental, installed it, for that very
> reason.
I got a parse error on this one. I suspect you are unaware that the
HTTP option is available in unstable, version 1.30.
> Maybe a post to d-u would spread the word.
Yes, that would be nice. But I leave
[Erik Schanze]
> Perhaps more will participate if you zip the report, to reduce
> traffic. It's requested in bug 149425 for years.
[Michelle Konzack]
> FullACK. - Most of my friends in Turkey and arabic counties too.
The HTTP upload is sending a gzip-ed version. I'm working on a
version compr
> > On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:50:34 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>> The main 'disadvantage' of anacron, is that it's set up by default to
> >>> only run /etc/cron.{daily,weekly,monthly}. It won't take care of running
> >>>
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Helmut Wollmersdorfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
I would not like to have it on 7/24 servers. There could be problems
after longer power outages in combination with weak scripts (which use
dates as file names). But this "should be the minority". And such
logic will
Helmut Wollmersdorfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Graham Wilson wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:12:10PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>
>>>There might eb
>>>cases where it harms but those should be the minority.
>
>> Seems to make sense. Are there any cases where having anacron install
Graham Wilson wrote:
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:12:10PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
There might eb
cases where it harms but those should be the minority.
Seems to make sense. Are there any cases where having anacron installed
by default would mess something up?
I would not like to
On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 03:12:10PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> I think overall it serves the users more to default to running missed
> cronjobs on boot than not. If that causes you problems you can always
> purge anarcron or fcron or protect the jobs itself. There might eb
> cases where it
Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
>> Well, you need to remember the 620 reports without any arch info. 95%
>> of them are probalby running i386 as well. :)
>
> How can this happen, anyway? PErhaps it would be good to add a option where
> one can send a nickname o
Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:50:34 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> The main 'disadvantage' of anacron, is that it's set up by default to
>>> only run /etc/cron.{daily,weekly,monthly}. It won'
On 7/26/05, Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:50:34 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> The main 'disadvantage' of anacron, is that it's set up by default to
> >> only run /etc/cron.{daily,weekly,mont
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:50:34 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> The main 'disadvantage' of anacron, is that it's set up by default to
> >> only run /etc/cron.{daily,weekly,monthly}. It wo
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:50:34 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> The main 'disadvantage' of anacron, is that it's set up by default to
>> only run /etc/cron.{daily,weekly,monthly}. It won't take care of running
>> normal cron jobs that
Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 04:43:32PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
>> On 7/25/05, Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Or even better, make sure d-i installs anacron for desktop systems.
>>
>> What's the disadvantage of anacron compared to cron
Adeodato Simó wrote:
> Or even better, make sure d-i installs anacron for desktop systems.
> That could be the case already, I'm not sure. CC'ing debian-boot to
> hear something from them.
It doesn't do so currently. It does for laptops though, so not too big a
leap I suppose.
--
see shy j
On 7/25/05, Pascal Hakim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 04:43:32PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> > On 7/25/05, Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Or even better, make sure d-i installs anacron for desktop systems.
> >
> > What's the disadvantage of anacron com
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 04:43:32PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> On 7/25/05, Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Or even better, make sure d-i installs anacron for desktop systems.
>
> What's the disadvantage of anacron compared to cron (or: Why not
> always install it instead of cro
On 7/25/05, Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Or even better, make sure d-i installs anacron for desktop systems.
What's the disadvantage of anacron compared to cron (or: Why not
always install it instead of cron)?
> That could be the case already, I'm not sure. CC'ing debian-boot to
>
* Margarita Manterola [Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:53:46 -0300]:
> Heh, this doesn't solve the problem that most desktop systems aren't
> turned on at that time, because most desktop users won't read this
> mail, and therefore won't install anacron.
> A better solution (from my point of view, of course),
On Mon, Jul 25, 2005 at 10:53:46AM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote:
> On 7/25/05, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > >> Perhaps some of the reports got lost in the mail?
> > > Or because many machines are not turned on that early in the morning.
> > apt-get install anacron
>
>
On 7/25/05, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Perhaps some of the reports got lost in the mail?
> > Or because many machines are not turned on that early in the morning.
> apt-get install anacron
Heh, this doesn't solve the problem that most desktop systems aren't
turned on at
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Helmut Wollmersdorfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> >> Perhaps some of the reports got lost in the mail?
> >
> > Or because many machines are not turned on that early in the morning.
>
> apt-get install anacron
or a
Helmut Wollmersdorfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
>
>> Perhaps some of the reports got lost in the mail?
>
> Or because many machines are not turned on that early in the morning.
apt-get install anacron
MfG
Goswin
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Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
Perhaps some of the reports got lost in the mail?
Or because many machines are not turned on that early in the morning.
Hopefully the HTTP
option will increase the participation count.
Thx for the message. I now upgraded to 1.30 and checked, if installed on
al
On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 14:25 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Michelle Konzack]
> > Are there really only 5398 machines in i386 ?
[snip]
> Perhaps some of the reports got lost in the mail? Hopefully the HTTP
> option will increase the participation count.
Soon after you put it in Experimental,
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> Well, you need to remember the 620 reports without any arch info. 95%
> of them are probalby running i386 as well. :)
How can this happen, anyway? PErhaps it would be good to add a option where
one can send a nickname of the owner and look up the repor
Am 2005-07-24 23:08:00, schrieb Erik Schanze:
> Hi Petter,
> Perhaps more will participate if you zip the report, to reduce traffic.
> It's requested in bug 149425 for years.
>
> At least for modem users popcon traffic is significant.
>
> And yes, I have only a low bandwidth modem line and run p
Hi Petter,
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Please help the install team and others get a better view on the use
> of packages in Debian. To do this, install the popularity-contest
> package and say yes to participate.
>
Perhaps more will participate if you zip the report, to reduce tra
Perhaps some of the reports got lost in the mail? Hopefully the HTTP
option will increase the participation count.
it already did, at least by one ;-)
The HTTP option is really a great improvement, especially
for desktop users.
Greetings,
Andreas
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTE
Am 2005-07-24 14:25:11, schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen:
> Great. Please keep up the good work, and try to get more people to
> participate as well. :)
I try to encourage and convince my clients to install it. :-)
Some have concerns about security...
> Perhaps some of the reports got lost in the m
[Michelle Konzack]
> Are there really only 5398 machines in i386 ?
Well, you need to remember the 620 reports without any arch info. 95%
of them are probalby running i386 as well. :)
> I cant belive it... I have already 13 i386 machines with popcon and
> now I will install it on my Macintosh II
Am 2005-07-24 01:56:24, schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen:
> At the moment, this is the relative ordering of architectures
> reporting to popularity-contest. I would love to see more machines
> reporting in.
>
> 1 0.02% m68k
> 1 0.02% hurd-i386
> 1 0.02% ppc64
> 2 0.03% kfreebs
Please help the install team and others get a better view on the use
of packages in Debian. To do this, install the popularity-contest
package and say yes to participate.
The results are updated daily on http://popcon.debian.org/>, and
the information is used to make the Debian CDs, to give deve
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