On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 08:00:21PM -0700, Jim Lynch wrote:
> Mike Stone said:
> > I'm still convinced that the reason slink's freeze took so long is that
> > some major packages were uploaded just prior to it, because they
> > "needed" to be in. Just like people want to do with perl...
>
> There i
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 08:14:24PM -0700, Jim Lynch wrote:
> Mike Stone said:
> > Perl is just another app.
>
> For most distributions, this is true. Proof: you can run those dists without
> perl.
>
> For debian, however, Mike's statement is not valid. Proof: try to release
> debian without perl
Mike Stone said:
> Perl is just another app.
For most distributions, this is true. Proof: you can run those dists without
perl.
For debian, however, Mike's statement is not valid. Proof: try to release
debian without perl in any form. You're gonna find that perl happens to have
been made essentia
Mike Stone said:
> I'm still convinced that the reason slink's freeze took so long is that
> some major packages were uploaded just prior to it, because they
> "needed" to be in. Just like people want to do with perl...
There is a difference in this case: freeze is not in effect, and not
immenent.
> Just to troll "out of the box" a bit:
>
> What are the reasons for freezing in the first place? Distribution
> versioning is not something I know much about! Help me out.
> 1) A known (re)starting point.
> 2) Bandwidth conservation - offload from mirrors to CD-ROM.
> 3) Life is simpler for
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 11:11:21AM -0500, Mr. Christopher F. Miller wrote:
> What are the reasons for freezing in the first place? Distribution
> versioning is not something I know much about! Help me out.
> 1) A known (re)starting point.
> 2) Bandwidth conservation - offload from mirrors to C
*Michael Stone wrote:
> On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 10:47:16AM -0400, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote:
> > IMHO we should not freeze until we have a number of things working,
> > including fully functional boot disks, a cdrom generation setup, etc..
>
> I agree with this. These are important things, and you c
*Michael Stone wrote:
> I'm still convinced that the reason slink's freeze took so long is that
> some major packages were uploaded just prior to it, because they
> "needed" to be in. Just like people want to do with perl...
I am not sure where you are headed with this statement. AFAIK,
n
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 10:47:16AM -0400, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote:
>
> IMHO we should not freeze until we have a number of things working,
> including fully functional boot disks, a cdrom generation setup, etc..
>
> At the moment our release method is slow, we have tried simple ways to
> speed t
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 10:47:16AM -0400, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote:
> IMHO we should not freeze until we have a number of things working,
> including fully functional boot disks, a cdrom generation setup, etc..
I agree with this. These are important things, and you can't do a dist
without them. Per
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 09:22:49AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> I'm still convinced that the reason slink's freeze took so long is that
> some major packages were uploaded just prior to it, because they
> "needed" to be in. Just like people want to do with perl...
No, thats /not/ what we (Though
On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 05:23:01PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Also, FWIW, my major complaint about the release process is that we
> spend far too much time in `freeze'. Shortening the freeze is one way
> to fix this, although I, personally, don't think any of this `just wait
> until next time!'
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 09:28:33PM -0700, Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote:
> On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 03:35:01PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
> > On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 05:57:15PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > > > I disagree. One of the major complaints I get about Debian by
> > > > colleagues is th
On Sat, May 08, 1999 at 09:28:33PM -0700, Aaron Van Couwenberghe wrote:
> > > The major complaint I hear is that debian takes too long between
> > > releases.
FWIW, I've never heard this. The major complaints I hear about Debian is
that dpkg is buggy, and that packages in unstable occassionally s
On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 03:35:01PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
> On Fri, May 07, 1999 at 05:57:15PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > > I disagree. One of the major complaints I get about Debian by
> > > colleagues is that its Perl is out of date. We should at the
> > > very least update to the late
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