Re: [RFC] new virtual package names for optical discs burning applications

2006-11-19 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Perl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello! > > On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:42:16 +0200 George Danchev wrote: >> On Saturday 18 November 2006 11:33, Adrian von Bidder wrote: >> > If they can't be used with the exact same commandline, there's no >> > sense in providing these virtual packages becaus

Re: [RFC] new virtual package names for optical discs burning applications

2006-11-18 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 18 November 2006 19:42 schrieb George Danchev: > On Saturday 18 November 2006 11:33, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > On Friday 17 November 2006 15:22, George Danchev wrote: > > > * `cd-burner' -- could be provided by wodim, cdrskin, (cdrdao > > > ?) * `dvd-burner' -- could be provid

Re: [RFC] new virtual package names for optical discs burning applications

2006-11-18 Thread Thomas Perl
Hello! On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 20:42:16 +0200 George Danchev wrote: > On Saturday 18 November 2006 11:33, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > > If they can't be used with the exact same commandline, there's no > > sense in providing these virtual packages because the programs need > > explicit support for each

Re: [RFC] new virtual package names for optical discs burning applications

2006-11-18 Thread George Danchev
On Saturday 18 November 2006 11:33, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > On Friday 17 November 2006 15:22, George Danchev wrote: > > * `cd-burner' -- could be provided by wodim, cdrskin, (cdrdao ?) > > * `dvd-burner' -- could be provided by wodim, dvd+rw-tools and > > dvdrecord > > I don't kn

Re: [RFC] new virtual package names for optical discs burning applications

2006-11-18 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Friday 17 November 2006 15:22, George Danchev wrote: > * `cd-burner' -- could be provided by wodim, cdrskin, (cdrdao ?) > * `dvd-burner' -- could be provided by wodim, dvd+rw-tools and > dvdrecord I don't know the programs in question exactly, but how likely is it that even wod

Re: [RFC] new virtual package names for optical discs burning applications

2006-11-18 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 17 November 2006 16:44, Loïc Minier wrote: > On Fri, Nov 17, 2006, George Danchev wrote: > > Using alternatives mechanism -- currently I don't think that using > > alternatives mechanism would be a benefit as a whole, but I might be > > blind of course. > > Check /usr/bin/sensible-*

Re: [RFC] new virtual package names for optical discs burning applications

2006-11-17 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006 at 04:22:51PM +0200, George Danchev wrote: > * `cd-burner' -- could be provided by wodim, cdrskin, (cdrdao ?) [...] > Another set of possible names would be `cd-recorder', `dvd-recorder' and so > on, but these are a little longer, while the clarity remains the same. Wh

Re: [RFC] new virtual package names for optical discs burning applications

2006-11-17 Thread Loïc Minier
On Fri, Nov 17, 2006, George Danchev wrote: > Using alternatives mechanism -- currently I don't think that using > alternatives mechanism would be a benefit as a whole, but I might be blind of > course. Check /usr/bin/sensible-* in debianutils. They rely on alternatives and environment

[RFC] new virtual package names for optical discs burning applications

2006-11-17 Thread George Danchev
Hello, With the advent of cdrskin [1] for writing CD-R/W in a cdrecord's command-line-compatible way and already having several dvd burner applications, I'd like to propose the addition of at least two more virtual package names to the `Authoritative list of virtual package names' [2] -

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-31 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: New virtual package names. "): ... > Well, I'm pretty sure that Bill didn't just wake up one morning and say > "Wow! That essential field sure is neat! Let's put it in ae! My assumption > was that this was an attempt to keep ae in t

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-30 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 30 Aug 1996, Mark Eichin wrote: > > Emacs also has conditions > > where it calls an outside editor... > > Interesting. I'm aware of cases where it will call outside *viewers* > (mostly mime/web stuff) but I can't think of what outside editors it > would call. Could you perhaps expand on thi

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-28 Thread Dale Scheetz
On 27 Aug 1996, Rob Browning wrote: > Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > (Until they try to remove all editors) > > I don't want to cause trouble, but why don't we just completely > disallow the removal of ae. It's harmless, and the entire package > only takes up 54K. I can't see t

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-27 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 27 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote: > Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: New virtual package names. "): > >... Part of my concerns stem from the past history of ae. I have > > only recently taken over the maintainance of this package. When I got it, > > the essential

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-27 Thread Lars Wirzenius
Ian Jackson: > What terrible thing do you think will happen if the user removes all > their editors ? They'll sit there wanting to edit a file and think > Damn, I can't figure out why I can't edit this file. I just sit > here blankly and wonder how I used to edit files. > ? Yes. -- Please

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-27 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: New virtual package names. "): >... Part of my concerns stem from the past history of ae. I have > only recently taken over the maintainance of this package. When I got it, > the essential field had been declaired a bug, but the discussion of that >

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-26 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Sun, 25 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote: > I have read all of the discussion. Just because I'm a week behind on > my email doesn't mean I'm not reading it. > > However, since you seemed so insistent, I went back and had a look at > what arguments people might have presented. > > I found a rather

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-25 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: New virtual package names. "): > On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote: ... > > I can't prove that it's needless. You're shifting the burden of > > proof. It's up to you to show that it's needed. > > The burde

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-22 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 21 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote: > Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: New virtual package names. "): > > On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote: > ... > > > Noone is going to deinstall all the editors on their system and not > > > notice what they've d

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: New virtual package names. "): > On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote: ... > > Noone is going to deinstall all the editors on their system and not > > notice what they've done wrong and how to fix it - this is not the > > kind of `m

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-14 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Fri, 9 Aug 1996, Ian Jackson wrote: > Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: New virtual package names. "): > ... > > On another note, is there an editor virtual package? Is there any interest > > in adding one? It could be valuable to add Provides: editor to ae (and > &g

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Dale Scheetz writes ("Re: New virtual package names. "): ... > On another note, is there an editor virtual package? Is there any interest > in adding one? It could be valuable to add Provides: editor to ae (and > others as well). Sorry I'm coming into this so late (just ov

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-02 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Warwick HARVEY wrote: > > On another note, is there an editor virtual package? Is there any interest > > in adding one? It could be valuable to add Provides: editor to ae (and > > others as well). > > What would it be used for? Are there packages that depend on having an > ed

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-02 Thread Lars Wirzenius
Warwick HARVEY: > Are there packages that depend on having an editor, Without trying, I think of vipw, vigr, mail, elm, rcs (and thus cvs), trn, tin, and nn. I grant that all but vipw and vigr can be used without an editor -- if you only read mail and news and never check anything in. I don't ha

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-02 Thread Warwick HARVEY
> Well, it's been a while, so lets add: > imap-client and imap-server > to the virtual package names list. Sure thing. I'm not familiar with imap though, so could you give me a description for these to go in the list? > On another note, is there an editor virtual package? Is there any interest

Re: New virtual package names.

1996-08-01 Thread Dale Scheetz
Well, it's been a while, so lets add: imap-client and imap-server to the virtual package names list. On another note, is there an editor virtual package? Is there any interest in adding one? It could be valuable to add Provides: editor to ae (and others as well). Thanks, Dwarf