Re: Media players in Debian (was: new mplayer)

2006-09-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-09-22 13:21:24, schrieb Andreas Tille: > And, BTW, do we really need Emacs if we have vi? > > Why not mcedit? Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Cou

Re: Media players in Debian (was: new mplayer)

2006-09-24 Thread Dariusz Pietrzak
> > Please tell me what's wrong with *current* package and what can we do to > IIRC, one of the things that lead to the rejection of the mplayer > package last time: > http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-dev-eng/2006-July/044840.html This has been fixed in both upstream (svn of mplayer), a

Re: Media players in Debian (was: new mplayer)

2006-09-23 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Freitag 22 September 2006 13:21 schrieb Andreas Tille: > On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > > I've heard these claims (ÿÿplayer X should be more than good enough, what > > do you need mplayer for these days?ÿÿ) for at least the last five years > > -- it's a difficult claim to ref

Re: Media players in Debian (was: new mplayer)

2006-09-23 Thread Thomas Weber
Hi, Am Samstag, den 23.09.2006, 13:07 +0200 schrieb Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo: > Please tell me what's wrong with *current* package and what can we do to > make it better and stop saying me it's license issue. IIRC, one of the things that lead to the rejection of the mplayer package last time: ht

Re: Media players in Debian (was: new mplayer)

2006-09-23 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 11:23:58AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > I agree, but understand and accept that the license issues need to be > checked before it is accepted into debian. I understand that, but mplayer inclusion is a problem since I remember that mplayer exists. I really don't kn

Re: Media players in Debian (was: new mplayer)

2006-09-23 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote: > Mplayer comes with his friend mencoder. I doubt that koffeine, totem, xine, > vlc have something to offer in that regard. You seem rather mistaken. VLC has more encoding and streaming features than mencoder. http://www.videolan.org/stream

Re: Media players in Debian (was: new mplayer)

2006-09-23 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Bartosz Fenski] > Mplayer comes with his friend mencoder. I doubt that koffeine, > totem, xine, vlc have something to offer in that regard. Yes, I believe you are right there. I suspect ffmpeg is the closest "replacement" for mencoder, thought the feature set is different. :) > And if I can't p

Re: Media players in Debian (was: new mplayer)

2006-09-22 Thread César Martínez Izquierdo
On 9/22/06, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Le vendredi 22 septembre 2006 à 12:29 +0200, César Martínez Izquierdo a écrit : > I could never see a whole film using Totem or VLC (from Debian). I don't remember seeing your bug report, could you point me to the bug number please? First

Re: Media players in Debian (was: new mplayer)

2006-09-22 Thread Chris Lamb
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:03:44 +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > I've heard these claims (“player X should be more than good enough, > what do you need mplayer for these days?”) for at least the last five > years Not, "This cannot be played on record^Hmedia player X" ? Tortoise -- Chris L

Re: Media players in Debian (was: new mplayer)

2006-09-22 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 22 septembre 2006 à 12:29 +0200, César Martínez Izquierdo a écrit : > I could never see a whole film using Totem or VLC (from Debian). I don't remember seeing your bug report, could you point me to the bug number please? -- .''`. Josselin Mouette/\./\ : :' :

Re: Media players in Debian (was: new mplayer)

2006-09-22 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: I've heard these claims (ÿÿplayer X should be more than good enough, what do you need mplayer for these days?ÿÿ) for at least the last five years -- it's a difficult claim to refute, since people have rather different viewing habits, different pla

Re: Media players in Debian (was: new mplayer)

2006-09-22 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 11:12:10AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > And I agree, the tools in Debian are quite good, and I am not sure if > mplayer have much extra to offer these days. I've heard these claims (“player X should be more than good enough, what do you need mplayer for these days?”

Re: Media players in Debian (was: new mplayer)

2006-09-22 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 22 September 2006 13:29, César Martínez Izquierdo wrote: > I could never see a whole film using Totem or VLC (from Debian). That is interesting assertion. I have very good experience with vlc here. Did you report your issue to the BTS ? > I do, with mplayer (from Marillat). In fact, I'

Re: Media players in Debian (was: new mplayer)

2006-09-22 Thread César Martínez Izquierdo
On 9/22/06, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Le vendredi 22 septembre 2006 à 11:19 +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo a écrit : > Mplayer comes with his friend mencoder. I doubt that koffeine, totem, xine, > vlc have something to offer in that regard. VLC does, and we also have ffmpeg fo

Re: Media players in Debian (was: new mplayer)

2006-09-22 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 22 septembre 2006 à 11:19 +0200, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo a écrit : > Mplayer comes with his friend mencoder. I doubt that koffeine, totem, xine, > vlc have something to offer in that regard. VLC does, and we also have ffmpeg for command-line encoding. GStreamer in Debian currently do

Re: Media players in Debian (was: new mplayer)

2006-09-22 Thread Andrew Donnellan
On 9/22/06, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, I know there won't be w32codecs package in Debian, but even mplayer would be great addition. It would be great if upstream would actually care about legal issues, licenses and patents in particular. This is pretty much the onl

Re: Media players in Debian (was: new mplayer)

2006-09-22 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 11:12:10AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > I was wondering, what's so important about mplayer? With totem and > > vlc (and I anticipate there's something similar for KDE) you have > > everything you need. > > I believe kaffeine is the totem equivalent for KDE. And I

Media players in Debian (was: new mplayer)

2006-09-22 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Yavor Doganov] > I was wondering, what's so important about mplayer? With totem and > vlc (and I anticipate there's something similar for KDE) you have > everything you need. I believe kaffeine is the totem equivalent for KDE. And I agree, the tools in Debian are quite good, and I am not sure i