Re: License discussions in Debian

2007-06-05 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Jun 6, 2007 at 06:07:46 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Perhaps a more interesting example is xserver-xorg-core's inclusion of the > GLX Public License, which includes: > > Any litigation relating to this License shall be subject to the > exclusive jurisdiction of the Federal Cou

Re: License discussions in Debian

2007-06-05 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:20:40PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > ] > I thought choice-of-venue is non-free by default? An example of a different MPL 1.1 derived choice-of-venue clause is firebird2's: This License shall be governed by California law provisions (except to the extent applica

Re: License discussions in Debian

2007-06-05 Thread Frank Küster
Thomas Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 14:20:40 schrieb Anthony Towns: >> On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:07:52PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: >> > You could ask Anthony whether you're allowed to publish his reasons on >> > -legal. That would do the project a great favor. >>

Re: License discussions in Debian

2007-06-05 Thread Thomas Weber
Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 14:20:40 schrieb Anthony Towns: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:07:52PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: > > You could ask Anthony whether you're allowed to publish his reasons on > > -legal. That would do the project a great favor. > > You could just ask me directly you know...

Re: License discussions in Debian

2007-06-05 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:08:31AM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: > That's true, as an ideal. In reality, you can't expect every DD or even > maintainer to subscribe to -legal except when they've got a particular > problem to discuss. Sure, but you don't need or want that. All you need is an unbias

Re: License discussions in Debian

2007-06-05 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:07:52PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: > You could ask Anthony whether you're allowed to publish his reasons on > -legal. That would do the project a great favor. You could just ask me directly you know... ] > I thought choice-of-venue is non-free by default? ] ] Via Simo

Re: License discussions in Debian

2007-06-05 Thread Frank Küster
Thomas Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 09:08:31 schrieb Frank Küster: >> Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 11:08:39PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: >> And a mail like >> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=350624;msg=142;at

Re: License discussions in Debian

2007-06-05 Thread Thomas Weber
Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 09:08:31 schrieb Frank Küster: > Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 11:08:39PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: > And a mail like > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=350624;msg=142;att=0 > is not only not-helpful-at-all, it's real

Re: License discussions in Debian

2007-06-05 Thread Frank Küster
Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 11:08:39PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: >> I think that Debian would very much benefit if there was a place (call >> it [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever) where our policy with regard to >> individual software's licenes could be discusse

Re: License discussions in Debian (was: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta)

2007-06-04 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 11:08:39PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: > Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > See, given that as an ftpmaster I'm one of the folks who actually > > implements the policy on what's accepted into main or not, it's not my > > loss at all. > I think that Debian would very

Re: License discussions in Debian (was: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta)

2007-06-04 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 04 juin 2007 à 23:08 +0200, Frank Küster a écrit : > I think that Debian would very much benefit if there was a place (call > it [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whatever) where our policy with regard to > individual software's licenes could be discussed with the input of those > who actually set this

License discussions in Debian (was: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta)

2007-06-04 Thread Frank Küster
Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > See, given that as an ftpmaster I'm one of the folks who actually > implements the policy on what's accepted into main or not, it's not my > loss at all. I think that Debian would very much benefit if there was a place (call it [EMAIL PROTECTED] or whate