Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now

2016-01-19 Thread Ben Finney
Bas Wijnen writes: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 06:57:43PM +0100, gaffa wrote: > > It's an MIT license: > > > That's a fine license as far as the DFSG is concerned, but as long as > they don't provide source, it's still not free software. Indeed, as far as the DFSG is concerned, it needs to be app

Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now

2016-01-19 Thread Bas Wijnen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 06:57:43PM +0100, gaffa wrote: > It's an MIT license: > > https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git/tree/firmware/WHENCE#n758 That's a fine license as far as the DFSG is concerned, but as long as the

Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now

2016-01-19 Thread gaffa
It's an MIT license: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git/tree/firmware/WHENCE#n758 pgpDw4IryVaNg.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now

2016-01-16 Thread shawn wilson
On Jan 16, 2016 1:30 AM, "gaffa" wrote: > > The firmware has a free license if you are to believe the WENCE file in the > kernel. > Ummm, just a guess but I think that would be talking about transferring ownership and not on reverse engineering (for instance).

Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now

2016-01-15 Thread gaffa
The firmware has a free license if you are to believe the WENCE file in the kernel.

Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now

2016-01-15 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> So I think it is very important that we support AMD right now on what we >> can, and ask manufacturers to include AMD graphics in those products. > You do realize that AMD graphics need proprietary firmware to have > proper 3D acceleration without which you probably couldn't run any game > at al

Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now

2016-01-15 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2016-01-15 at 04:57 -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > > On Jan 14, 2016 5:11 PM, "Zlatan Todoric" wrote: >  > > > So I think it is very important that we support AMD right now on what we > > > can, and ask manufacturers to include AMD graphics in those products. > > > > > > > You do realize th

Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now

2016-01-15 Thread shawn wilson
On Jan 14, 2016 5:11 PM, "Zlatan Todoric" wrote: > > > > On 01/14/2016 09:11 PM, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: > > Nearly all compact Linux computers feasible for gaming are sold > > exclusively using NVIDIA graphics, and that company is hostile to libre > > software. > > > > So I think it is very

Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now

2016-01-14 Thread Michael Haney
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Zlatan Todoric wrote: > > > On 01/14/2016 09:11 PM, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: > > Nearly all compact Linux computers feasible for gaming are sold > > exclusively using NVIDIA graphics, and that company is hostile to libre > > software. > > > > So I think it is

Re: Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now

2016-01-14 Thread Zlatan Todoric
On 01/14/2016 09:11 PM, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: > Nearly all compact Linux computers feasible for gaming are sold > exclusively using NVIDIA graphics, and that company is hostile to libre > software. > > So I think it is very important that we support AMD right now on what we > can, and as

Libre graphics could become the standard if we push right now

2016-01-14 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
Nearly all compact Linux computers feasible for gaming are sold exclusively using NVIDIA graphics, and that company is hostile to libre software. So I think it is very important that we support AMD right now on what we can, and ask manufacturers to include AMD graphics in those products. Bec