Re: Let's start salvaging packages -- Summary of the BoF Session.

2018-08-05 Thread Tobias Frost
On Sun, Aug 05, 2018 at 01:20:47PM +, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > On August 5, 2018 7:41:41 AM UTC, Tobias Frost wrote: > > > >Yes, the TC has the power to decide ultimately about maintainership > >when > >there is an dispute and if involved parties failed find consesus. The > >proposed pro

Re: Let's start salvaging packages -- Summary of the BoF Session.

2018-08-05 Thread Niels Thykier
Scott Kitterman: > [...] > > So a maintainer misses one email and anything goes? > The maintainer would get no less than two emails AFAICT: * One when the ITS is filed. * Another one after 21 days when the maintainer is *explicitly* CC'ed on the nmudiff for the NMU (that is required to c

Re: Let's start salvaging packages -- Summary of the BoF Session.

2018-08-05 Thread Tobias Frost
On Sun, Aug 05, 2018 at 02:47:58PM +, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > On August 5, 2018 2:17:04 PM UTC, Adam Borowski wrote: > >On Sun, Aug 05, 2018 at 01:20:47PM +, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >> Package 'salvaging' is about an involuntary change of maintainer > >involving > >> someone who is

Re: Let's start salvaging packages -- Summary of the BoF Session.

2018-08-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On August 5, 2018 2:17:04 PM UTC, Adam Borowski wrote: >On Sun, Aug 05, 2018 at 01:20:47PM +, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> Package 'salvaging' is about an involuntary change of maintainer >involving >> someone who is sufficiently active in the project not to be MIA. >It's >> fundamentally dif

Re: Let's start salvaging packages -- Summary of the BoF Session.

2018-08-05 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Aug 05, 2018 at 01:20:47PM +, Scott Kitterman wrote: > Package 'salvaging' is about an involuntary change of maintainer involving > someone who is sufficiently active in the project not to be MIA. It's > fundamentally different. > > I suspect it's constitutionally sufficient for the T

Re: Let's start salvaging packages -- Summary of the BoF Session.

2018-08-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On August 5, 2018 7:41:41 AM UTC, Tobias Frost wrote: >On Sun, Aug 05, 2018 at 06:50:28AM +, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> >> Since it's explicitly in the Debian constitution that the TC is the >> decider of package maintainership, how does a dev-ref change overcome >> that? >> > >Yes, the TC

Re: Let's start salvaging packages -- Summary of the BoF Session.

2018-08-05 Thread Tobias Frost
On Sun, Aug 05, 2018 at 06:50:28AM +, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Since it's explicitly in the Debian constitution that the TC is the > decider of package maintainership, how does a dev-ref change overcome > that? > Yes, the TC has the power to decide ultimately about maintainership when ther

Re: Let's start salvaging packages -- Summary of the BoF Session.

2018-08-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On August 5, 2018 6:17:12 AM UTC, Tobias Frost wrote: >Hello everyone, > >tl;dr: at the BoF the proposal seems to be uncontroversial at the >session. So we will go forward with discussing it and propose a patch >to e.g dev-ref (if we're still aiming for dev-ref then) > >Generally, the people a

Let's start salvaging packages -- Summary of the BoF Session.

2018-08-04 Thread Tobias Frost
Hello everyone, tl;dr: at the BoF the proposal seems to be uncontroversial at the session. So we will go forward with discussing it and propose a patch to e.g dev-ref (if we're still aiming for dev-ref then) Generally, the people at the BoF seemed to be supportive of the proposal, but a few thin