Re: Google Summer of Code 2009: is not dunc tank

2009-04-11 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Obey Arthur Liu dijo [Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:03:57PM +0200]: > And please don't compare the Summer of Code with Dunc Tank, it's > insulting to all the students, mentors and admins involved. Should I > remind you all that I'm also a student ? > (..long snip...) Not to mention that the GSoC project

Re: [Soc-coordination] Google Summer of Code 2009: is not dunc tank

2009-04-10 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 10 April 2009 at 18:05, Obey Arthur Liu wrote: | Lucas Nussbaum a crit : | > What could be considered fair is, if DDs are involved as students in | > GSOC, to give the money to Debian instead of giving it to the students [...] | That's a novel idea. It's worth discussing, but it's way too late

Re: [Soc-coordination] Google Summer of Code 2009: is not dunc tank

2009-04-10 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 10/04/09 at 18:05 +0200, Obey Arthur Liu wrote: > Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : > > That's right. But DDs are free to apply to other projects, as are > > contributors to other projects free to apply to Debian. > > DDs are free to go where they want, but I wouldn't be happy with a rule, > written or

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009: is not dunc tank

2009-04-10 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Lucas Nussbaum [2009-04-10 15:10]: > What could be considered fair is, if DDs are involved as students in > GSOC, to give the money to Debian instead of giving it to the students I think this is so unreasonable it's not even funny. So it's okay for non-DD students to accept money but suddenly

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009: is not dunc tank

2009-04-10 Thread Obey Arthur Liu
Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : > That's right. But DDs are free to apply to other projects, as are > contributors to other projects free to apply to Debian. DDs are free to go where they want, but I wouldn't be happy with a rule, written or unsaid, that banned DDs outright from Debian. We have a Gnome b

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009: is not dunc tank

2009-04-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:03:57PM +0200, Obey Arthur Liu wrote: > Dunc Tank was about funding working professionals to work on > release-critical stuff that would otherwise have been done exactly the > same way. False. > They were paid a sum equivalent to a software engineer's salary. False. -

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009: is not dunc tank

2009-04-10 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 10/04/09 at 12:03 +0200, Obey Arthur Liu wrote: > And please don't compare the Summer of Code with Dunc Tank, it's > insulting to all the students, mentors and admins involved. Should I > remind you all that I'm also a student ? > Dunc Tank was about funding working professionals to work on > re

Re: Google Summer of Code 2009: is not dunc tank

2009-04-10 Thread Obey Arthur Liu
Obey Arthur Liu a écrit : > Hi folks, ... > I am inviting you to debate what you think is cool, what is useful, what > is important to Debian, maybe give us pointers to resources or people > that could be helpful for the projects. We will try to alter our current > rankings to reflect the zeitgeist