Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-30 Thread Guy Maor
Avery Pennarun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Six orders of magnitude?? Bandwidth and latency are not the same thing. Guy

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-28 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Wed, Jan 27, 1999 at 10:27:15PM -0500, Avery Pennarun wrote: > Six orders of magnitude?? In the unlikely event that my 100 MHz SDRAM can > really handle 32 bits (4 bytes) per cycle, then it can transfer 400 > megabytes per second. It's not REALLY that fast, but I'll give it the > benefit of t

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-28 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Wed, Jan 27, 1999 at 08:13:30PM -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > >> Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Don't think so small. Some of us run quite big machines on Debian; my > > workstation/server at work has ~300MB of swap configured from ~25GB of > > disk. >128 MB of swap

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-28 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Don't think so small. Some of us run quite big machines on Debian; my > workstation/server at work has ~300MB of swap configured from ~25GB of > disk. >128 MB of swap is _not_ very big... I'm NOT thinking small. I'm thinking efficiency. You ar

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-28 Thread David Welton
On Thu, Jan 28, 1999 at 12:58:41AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > > > >a) If you DO NEED a > 128 MB swap file you are in serious trouble. You > > should get more ram; the induced cost of extremely slow operation is much > > higher than that of two lo

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-28 Thread Steve McIntyre
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > >a) If you DO NEED a > 128 MB swap file you are in serious trouble. You > should get more ram; the induced cost of extremely slow operation is much > higher than that of two lousy DIMMs. Don't think so small. Some of us run quite big machines on Deb

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-27 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 04:40:35PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Gergely Madarasz wrote: > > > > But is that specific problem Debian/slink related..? That is, does it work > > > correctly with potato? > > > > No, it does not work correctly with potato either. It seems to b

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-27 Thread John Lapeyre
The guys running the big machines are going to be a minority and should have no problem downloading util-linux. Even over a modem, its probably OK. It may be not worth it to risk the instability for the vast majority. The kernel source itself may be a problem for a slow or expens

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-27 Thread Mikolaj J. Habryn
> "VR" == Vincent Renardias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: VR> The 2.9 Debian package already contains the alpha patches VR> supplied by Christopher C Chimelis VR> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (see bug report #17661). I am VR> not aware of any other patch or problem specific to the alpha

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-27 Thread Vincent Renardias
On 27 Jan 1999, Mikolaj J. Habryn wrote: > > "VR" == Vincent Renardias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > VR> Including the current (2.9g-5) util-linux from unstable in > VR> frozen is a Bad Idea(tm). This version has several big > VR> packaging issues. > > On top of everything e

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-27 Thread Mikolaj J. Habryn
> "VR" == Vincent Renardias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: VR> Including the current (2.9g-5) util-linux from unstable in VR> frozen is a Bad Idea(tm). This version has several big VR> packaging issues. On top of everything else, alpha support (and quite possibly other non-x86 arch

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-27 Thread Brian White
> In my more than honest opinion, I think util-linux 2.9g should be included > in slink. Developments in the computer business are going fast, as everyone > knows, and on the day slink will get released, I think a lot of people who > are going to upgrade to slink, also want to have the newest kerne

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-27 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Gergely Madarasz wrote: > > > > But is that specific problem Debian/slink related..? That is, does it work > > > correctly with potato? > > > > No, it does not work correctly with potato either. It seems to be a > > general in

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Gergely Madarasz wrote: > > But is that specific problem Debian/slink related..? That is, does it work > > correctly with potato? > > No, it does not work correctly with potato either. It seems to be a > general incompatibility with 2.2 2.2 did something bizzar to how the p

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Raul Miller
Marcelo E. Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a) If you DO NEED a > 128 MB swap file you are in serious trouble. Not if you have 2G ram. -- Raul

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Remco van de Meent
Joey Hess wrote: > I'm forced to agree. Support for swap partitions > 128 mb is a new > feature; a mkswap that doesn't support it isn't a major incompatability. > Few people will need the feature anyway, and if they do need it the simple > workaround is to use multiple 128 mb partitions. Okay, rea

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Tim \(Pass the Prozac\) Sailer
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 01:33:01PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:21:56 -0500, Tim \(Pass the Prozac\) Sailer wrote: > > >I have about 50 machines with all 4 DIMM slots filled with 128M sticks. > >I have *8* 128M swap partitions, and it's not enough since the (*&[EMAIL > >PROTE

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 08:36:53PM +0100, Remco van de Meent wrote: > I just tried to match the Changes file from Linux-2.2.0 with the slink > distribution, and was happy to find out that almost every requirement > mentioned in that file is fullfilled by the packages (versions) in slink. > Howe

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Joey Hess
Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > I'm forced to ask: what for? I'm forced to agree. Support for swap partitions > 128 mb is a new feature; a mkswap that doesn't support it isn't a major incompatability. Few people will need the feature anyway, and if they do need it the simple workaround is to use mult

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Vincent Renardias
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Remco van de Meent wrote: > In my more than honest opinion, I think util-linux 2.9g should be included > in slink. Developments in the computer business are going fast, as everyone > knows, and on the day slink will get released, I think a lot of people who > are going to upg

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:21:56 -0500, Tim \(Pass the Prozac\) Sailer wrote: >I have about 50 machines with all 4 DIMM slots filled with 128M sticks. >I have *8* 128M swap partitions, and it's not enough since the (*&[EMAIL >PROTECTED] >users run progra

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Tim \(Pass the Prozac\) Sailer
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 03:03:14PM -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > I'm forced to ask: what for? > > a) If you DO NEED a > 128 MB swap file you are in serious trouble. You >should get more ram; the induced cost of extremely slow operation is much >higher than that of two lousy DIMMs.

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Steve Lamb
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:03:14 -0600, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: >c) The argument "something on the kernel wants it" doesn't hold. For that > matter, the kernel wants coda, and that's in project/experimental. What > did you say? That coda is not es

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Tue, Jan 26, 1999 at 08:36:53PM +0100, Remco van de Meent wrote: > I just tried to match the Changes file from Linux-2.2.0 with the slink > distribution, and was happy to find out that almost every requirement > mentioned in that file is fullfilled by the packages (versions) in slink. > However

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Remco van de Meent wrote: > Gergely Madarasz wrote: > > Another problem: bootpc from the netstd package does not work with 2.2. > > Btw the kernel has bootp support itself, but it can't be used with pnp > > network cards which need isapnp initialization. So my network setup wh

Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Remco van de Meent
Hi, With this message, I know I'm going to touch a rather sensitive subject, but however, I think it's worth it. I just tried to match the Changes file from Linux-2.2.0 with the slink distribution, and was happy to find out that almost every requirement mentioned in that file is fullfilled by the

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Remco van de Meent
Gergely Madarasz wrote: > Another problem: bootpc from the netstd package does not work with 2.2. > Btw the kernel has bootp support itself, but it can't be used with pnp > network cards which need isapnp initialization. So my network setup which > used bootp breaks with 2.2... But is that specifi

Re: Getting Slink compatible with Linux-2.2.0

1999-01-26 Thread Gergely Madarasz
On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Remco van de Meent wrote: > Also, Stephen Crowley noted that new dhcp-packages should be included in > slink, because the ones that currently are in slink ain't compatible with > Linux-2.2 either, but maybe he can explain that himself :) Another problem: bootpc from the netst