Re: Easy third-party package installer for debian-based distributions

2005-09-27 Thread Jesús M. Navarro
Hi, Sami: El Domingo, 18 Septiembre 2005 23:22, Sami Dalouche escribió: > OK, may be an overkill. > But what happens with your solution if skype depends on libskype, which is > not available from debian's repository ?The user has to download several > .debs in order to install a single software ?

Re: Easy third-party package installer for debian-based distributions

2005-09-19 Thread Humberto Massa
@ 18/09/2005 17:55 : wrote Josselin Mouette : This is complete overkill. The only thing currently missing in your scenario is support in apt-get and synaptic for grabbing dependencies for a single binary package. E.g. "apt-get install foo.deb" or "synaptic foo.deb". There was some patch to

Re: Easy third-party package installer for debian-based distributions

2005-09-19 Thread George Danchev
On Monday 19 September 2005 00:35, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > (Side note: What's this obsession with Joe User everyone has? If there's > something _you_ have a problem with when using Debian, shoot. Otherwise, > synaptic is very easy to use -- even to Joe User). > > On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 11:22:30PM

Re: Easy third-party package installer for debian-based distributions

2005-09-19 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 19 septembre 2005 à 12:02 +0800, Paul Wise a écrit : > Once debian-unoffical.org supports Ubuntu, just get users to put > debian-unofficial.org in their /etc/apt/sources.list. They claim that > they will be importing Christian Marillat's mplayer/etc repository too > soon. Why import a bro

Re: Easy third-party package installer for debian-based distributions

2005-09-18 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 04:10:00AM +0200, Sami Dalouche wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry for being concerned with usability issues (hence average joe) while > dealing with the way debian works. I guess that only ubuntu-devel was > interested by this message then. I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is th

Re: Easy third-party package installer for debian-based distributions

2005-09-18 Thread Paul Wise
Sami Dalouche wrote: > Let's take, for example, Skype's example. It is not available in > non-free/universe, but some people may still be interested in downloading it, Once debian-unoffical.org supports Ubuntu, just get users to put debian-unofficial.org in their /etc/apt/sources.list. They claim

Re: Easy third-party package installer for debian-based distributions

2005-09-18 Thread Benjamin Seidenberg
Sami Dalouche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: OK, may be an overkill. But what happens with your solution if skype depends on libskype, which is not available from debian's repository ?The user has to download several .debs in order to install a single software ? Skype should se

Re: Easy third-party package installer for debian-based distributions

2005-09-18 Thread Russ Allbery
Sami Dalouche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > OK, may be an overkill. > But what happens with your solution if skype depends on libskype, which > is not available from debian's repository ?The user has to download > several .debs in order to install a single software ? Skype should set up their ow

Re: Easy third-party package installer for debian-based distributions

2005-09-18 Thread Sami Dalouche
Hi, Sorry for being concerned with usability issues (hence average joe) while dealing with the way debian works. I guess that only ubuntu-devel was interested by this message then. I am not claiming that synaptic is hard to use, (it can even be easier in some use cases), I am just claiming that a

Re: Easy third-party package installer for debian-based distributions

2005-09-18 Thread Wouter Verhelst
(Side note: What's this obsession with Joe User everyone has? If there's something _you_ have a problem with when using Debian, shoot. Otherwise, synaptic is very easy to use -- even to Joe User). On Sun, Sep 18, 2005 at 11:22:30PM +0200, Sami Dalouche wrote: > OK, may be an overkill. > But what h

Re: Easy third-party package installer for debian-based distributions

2005-09-18 Thread Ante Karamatic
On Sun, 2005-09-18 at 22:47 +0200, Sami Dalouche wrote: > - Joe downloads a .mdeb (meta-deb) package on skype's website. It would be easier to download deb, double-click it. App starts, makes a copy of deb/moves deb to /var/lib/my-apt-repo, creates Packages.gz, apt-get update, apt-get install pro

Re: Easy third-party package installer for debian-based distributions

2005-09-18 Thread Sami Dalouche
OK, may be an overkill. But what happens with your solution if skype depends on libskype, which is not available from debian's repository ?The user has to download several .debs in order to install a single software ? Sami Dalouche Quoting Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Le dimanche 18 s

Re: Easy third-party package installer for debian-based distributions

2005-09-18 Thread Trent Lloyd
IMHO, the 'right' solution to do this is to have some file whcih describes a normal apt archive and the package in it to install, and double clicking it adds it to your apt sources, updates, and installs the package using apt, then upgrades will be handled normally with update-notifier et al. IIRC

Re: Easy third-party package installer for debian-based distributions

2005-09-18 Thread Sami Dalouche
Well, this "right" solution has 2 main problems : - It needs some package to be installed on the box. This is workable, but ubuntu/debian/others have to agree and install the necessary software to handle this by default, otherwise it becomes useless. - It doesn't handle offline installations.. Not

Re: Easy third-party package installer for debian-based distributions

2005-09-18 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 18 septembre 2005 à 22:47 +0200, Sami Dalouche a écrit : > Let's take, for example, Skype's example. It is not available in > non-free/universe , but some people may still be interested in downloading it, > be they linux experts or not. So what happens on a > Debian/Ubuntu/MEPIS/whatev

Easy third-party package installer for debian-based distributions

2005-09-18 Thread Sami Dalouche
Hi, I'm crossposting between debian-devel and ubuntu-devel, but maybe some other debian-based distributions may be interested as well. Feel free to forward.. This email is about sharing some thoughts about installing third party packages inside on a debian box.. Let's take, for example, Skype's