I am using a "non-spam" email account for this donation (also
to stay as much anonymous as possible,
but Paul Wise already received my real email address upfront).
Best regards
The donator
PS: Important restriction: I can ship it only within the EU (European Union),
since I do not want
Mo Zhou writes:
> On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 10:37:07AM +0200, Gard Spreemann wrote:
>> Or, another example that I can imagine plausibly arising in practice:
>> suppose a terrabyte of raw data was collected from a scientific
>> experiment or simulation in order to produce (among other things) a pl
On Tue, 31 Mar 2020 at 22:22:21 -0400, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> I think this goes back to the epic "Editorial amendments" GR which,
> among other things, applied DFSG beyond code to other things like
> image files [1]. Over 15 years later, it's still really hard to figure
> out how to apply the aspira
Hi,
The upstream author responded quickly:
https://github.com/pymumu/smartdns/issues/452#issuecomment-606079773
(in Chinese)
The center pictures is actually the user avatars.
The avatar in alipay_donate.jpg comes from Nentendo game.
The avatar in wechat_donate.jpg is a photo taken by the upstream
On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 10:37:07AM +0200, Gard Spreemann wrote:
> Or, another example that I can imagine plausibly arising in practice:
> suppose a terrabyte of raw data was collected from a scientific
> experiment or simulation in order to produce (among other things) a plot
> in the form of a 100
Jeremy Bicha writes:
> Let's say I take a photo of myself to include in an app so that users
> can appreciate what I look like. What is the "preferred form of
> modification"? If it's 15 years later and I no longer look the same,
> would I edit the photo with free software to make it look like
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:32 PM Russ Allbery wrote:
> I do understand the desire to have the URL in a form that's easily
> searchable, but I don't think people are thinking through the implications
> of saying we're not allowed to distribute sources even in formats that are
> round-trip convertabl
> "ST" == Samuel Thibault writes:
ST> Shengjing Zhu, le lun. 30 mars 2020 15:53:18 +0800, a ecrit:
>> IMO, the QR picture is preferred form of modification as well as the
>> origin text.
ST> Is there a program which takes a QR code, allows to modify the URL and
ST> the picture in the middle,
Russ Allbery, le lun. 30 mars 2020 13:32:05 -0700, a ecrit:
> Samuel Thibault writes:
>
> > Concerning base64-encoded text files, it's quite borderline. Possibly
> > some editor do support opening base64-encoded files, then it's fine to
> > have this as source code. Otherwise I don't see it as th
Samuel Thibault writes:
> Concerning base64-encoded text files, it's quite borderline. Possibly
> some editor do support opening base64-encoded files, then it's fine to
> have this as source code. Otherwise I don't see it as the preferred
> format for modifications.
This is not what preferred fo
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes:
> Anyway, I am not really arguing that QR codes (even these) are not
> redistributable in Debian source or binary packages (I'm leaving this to
> the FTP masters). I am saying that with the tooling we have (qrencode is
> one of plenty), it is really easy to produce fu
Le lundi, 30 mars 2020, 21.08:18 h CEST Russ Allbery a écrit :
> Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes:
> > Yet one is a string, and the other one an image. If you edit the string
> > before turning it into a QR code, you get a valid QR code (maybe
> > encoding a broken, or misleading URL, but still valid Q
On 3/30/20 2:34 PM, Sean Whitton wrote:
> The text quoted from the -private IRC channel is a bit misleading. I
> was the one who rejected the upload, and it was not actually because of
> the QR codes, but for other reasons.
I think it was pretty clear from the original email that there was
anothe
Hello,
On Mon 30 Mar 2020 at 05:54AM +00, Mo Zhou wrote:
> I think sometimes the DFSG has been over-interpreted. Here I'm talking about
> the recent REJECTion of src:smartdns from our NEW queue, where QR code
> pictures
> used for donation have been deemed DFSG non-free [1].
Russ Allbery, le lun. 30 mars 2020 12:08:18 -0700, a ecrit:
> Surely the QR code is an encoding of a string?
Yes, but can you easily modify the URL in that form?
Do you have an editor that can open it as such and let you check and
modify the URL?
> In other words, to me this feels like claiming
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes:
> Yet one is a string, and the other one an image. If you edit the string
> before turning it into a QR code, you get a valid QR code (maybe
> encoding a broken, or misleading URL, but still valid QR code). If you
> edit the QR code directly, you _can_ get a valid QR
Le lundi, 30 mars 2020, 10.14:13 h CEST Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
> On Mon, 30 Mar 2020, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> > > How should package maintainers deal with QR codes ethically?
> >
> > Asking package maintainers to rebuild functionally-equivalent QR-codes
> > during the build-process seems
Hi Johannes,
I opened an issue at upstream:
https://github.com/pymumu/smartdns/issues/452
(Note, written in Chinese)
Let's wait to see the answer.
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:49:34AM +0200, Johannes Schauer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Quoting Paul Wise (2020-03-30 10:20:08)
> > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:53
; Mo.
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 05:54:23AM +, Mo Zhou wrote:
> > Hi fellow devs,
> >
> > I think sometimes the DFSG has been over-interpreted. Here I'm talking about
> > the recent REJECTion of src:smartdns from our NEW queue, where QR code
> > pic
, Mar 30, 2020 at 05:54:23AM +, Mo Zhou wrote:
> Hi fellow devs,
>
> I think sometimes the DFSG has been over-interpreted. Here I'm talking about
> the recent REJECTion of src:smartdns from our NEW queue, where QR code
> pictures
> used for donation have been deemed DFS
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 4:20 PM Paul Wise wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:53 AM Shengjing Zhu wrote:
>
> > 1. There's no info loss if you convert from one to another.
>
> You definitely lose the (presumably non-free) television/game
> characters when converting from the original QR codes to p
Hi,
Quoting Paul Wise (2020-03-30 10:20:08)
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:53 AM Shengjing Zhu wrote:
> > 1. There's no info loss if you convert from one to another.
> You definitely lose the (presumably non-free) television/game characters when
> converting from the original QR codes to plain text.
This case, in my interpretation, the text from the QR code is not upstream
author's preferred form of modification.
The QR code probably is author's preferred form of modification by changing the
payment QR code as a whole.
Ethics wise, we could ask author if they can accept other payment metho
would argue in favor of doing it, precisely to make sure
that it is still the donation URL, and not a faked one that would go
unnoticed if the URL only shows up as QR code.
I would agree to keep the upstram picture it was really the preferred
form of modification, but it really is not here: I can
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 7:53 AM Shengjing Zhu wrote:
> 1. There's no info loss if you convert from one to another.
You definitely lose the (presumably non-free) television/game
characters when converting from the original QR codes to plain text.
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pabs
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Hi,
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> > How should package maintainers deal with QR codes ethically?
>
> Asking package maintainers to rebuild functionally-equivalent QR-codes during
> the build-process seems entirely reasonable to me.
To me it looks like wasting my time. There
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 03:53:18PM +0800, Shengjing Zhu wrote:
> But, these pictures are in the documents, not in the program
We apply the same standards to both.
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Shengjing Zhu, le lun. 30 mars 2020 15:53:18 +0800, a ecrit:
> IMO, the QR picture is preferred form of modification as well as the
> origin text.
Is there a program which takes a QR code, allows to modify the URL and
the picture in the middle, and write the new QR code with the picture?
> And, I
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:54 PM Mo Zhou wrote:
>lumin: An image of a QR code wouldn't be the preferred form of
> modification. They are usually generated from something. If the file it
> was
> generated from isn't present and the tool to generate it isn't in Debian,
> then
> it can't
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 5:54 AM Mo Zhou wrote:
> *
> https://salsa.debian.org/debian/smartdns/-/blob/master/doc/alipay_donate.jpg
> *
> https://salsa.debian.org/debian/smartdns/-/blob/master/doc/wechat_donate.jpg
In addition to the QR codes, these both contain images of what look
like telev
Hello Mo,
Le lundi, 30 mars 2020, 07.54:23 h CEST Mo Zhou a écrit :
> I think sometimes the DFSG has been over-interpreted. Here I'm talking about
> the recent REJECTion of src:smartdns from our NEW queue, where QR code
> pictures used for donation have been deemed DFSG non-fre
Hi fellow devs,
I think sometimes the DFSG has been over-interpreted. Here I'm talking about
the recent REJECTion of src:smartdns from our NEW queue, where QR code pictures
used for donation have been deemed DFSG non-free [1]. I'm not satisfied with
the explanation, and I think the
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> On 12/03/2011 09:52 PM, Daniel Martí wrote:
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>
> For starters, by not including a
On 12/03/2011 09:52 PM, Daniel Martí wrote:
> Scam in french, asking for money. Is there any way to avoid spam in this
> list?
For starters, by not including a fullquote of the SPAM. Then by
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Nadia Dubois wrote:
>Bonjour
>
>N'ayez aucune crainte, car avant de vous contacter j'ai prié pendant
>plusieurs nuits pour que le seigneur Jésus Christ puisse m'accorder le
>contact d'une personne de confiance à qui
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On Fri, 2010-12-31 at 11:52 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le jeudi 30 décembre 2010 à 23:01 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen a écrit :
> > But it might be interesting to support the bitcoin system by accepting
> > donations, and give users of bitcoin more to spend their bitcoins
> > on. :)
>
> I don
Le jeudi 30 décembre 2010 à 23:01 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen a écrit :
> But it might be interesting to support the bitcoin system by accepting
> donations, and give users of bitcoin more to spend their bitcoins
> on. :)
I don’t think it is a good idea to promote and support a system that is
desi
[Cyclonite]
> Dear friends,
>
> I have been looking in your site for any reference to Bitcoin for
> making a small donation.
As far as I know, none of the organisations accepting donations on
behalf of the Debian project accept bitcoin.
We are considering it for the SLX Debian Lab
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Hello alpha lovers,
I have a AlphaPC collecting dust in my apartment that should probably
go to someone who might actually put it to a good use. I'm in the New
York area so being nearby would make things easier but I'm willing to
work out shipping it somewhere if you're very keen.
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On 06/12/2007 06:24 AM, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 02:46:08PM -0600, Warren Turkal wrote:
>> I personally have 6 or 7 U320 73GB 10K RPM SCSI drives that I am not using
>> for
>> anything interesting. Can anyone tell me if thes
On Monday 11 June 2007 23:56:16 Kevin Mark wrote:
> Oddly enough if you had posted this a bit earlyer, one of the US folks
> who will attend Debconf (this year in the UK) could have brought it with
> them. This would make it easy to directly give it to many folks who are
> part of Debian. Although
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 11:19:00PM -0600, Warren Turkal wrote:
> On Monday 11 June 2007 21:52:09 Kevin Mark wrote:
> > As shipping may be a consideration, in the cost-benefit analysis, it may
> > be useful to say where in the world you are, in a general way, so that
> > someone in the area, who cou
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 02:46:08PM -0600, Warren Turkal wrote:
> I personally have 6 or 7 U320 73GB 10K RPM SCSI drives that I am not using
> for
> anything interesting. Can anyone tell me if these would be useful to Debian
> or recommend another free software group to donate them?
The m68k po
On Monday 11 June 2007 21:52:09 Kevin Mark wrote:
> As shipping may be a consideration, in the cost-benefit analysis, it may
> be useful to say where in the world you are, in a general way, so that
> someone in the area, who could use them, could reply.
I will ship anywhere in the US. Exporting th
On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 02:46:08PM -0600, Warren Turkal wrote:
> I personally have 6 or 7 U320 73GB 10K RPM SCSI drives that I am not using
> for
> anything interesting. Can anyone tell me if these would be useful to Debian
> or recommend another free software group to donate them?
As shipping m
I personally have 6 or 7 U320 73GB 10K RPM SCSI drives that I am not using for
anything interesting. Can anyone tell me if these would be useful to Debian
or recommend another free software group to donate them?
Thanks,
wt
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gt; Elive <http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Download/Stable/>, based on Debian,
> > requires a donation, however small, to allow downloading. I wonder if
> > this legally sound.
>
> The DFSG explicitly specifies that licenses of our software must allow people
> to charge for distr
> Elive <http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Download/Stable/>, based on Debian,
> requires a donation, however small, to allow downloading. I wonder if
> this legally sound.
>
> Ottavio
>From the page you referred to above:
"If you don't care about the future
On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 06:04:13 -0800 (PST)
Ottavio Caruso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Elive <http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Download/Stable/>, based on Debian,
> requires a donation, however small, to allow downloading. I wonder if
> this legally sound.
The DFSG explicitly speci
Il giorno ven, 24/11/2006 alle 09.09 -0600, Ron Johnson ha scritto:
> On 11/24/06 08:04, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> > Elive <http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Download/Stable/>, based on Debian,
> > requires a donation, however small, to allow downloading. I wonder if
> > this
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On 11/24/06 08:04, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
> Elive <http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Download/Stable/>, based on Debian,
> requires a donation, however small, to allow downloading. I wonder if
> this legally sound.
Sure. That page links to htt
Elive <http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Download/Stable/>, based on Debian,
requires a donation, however small, to allow downloading. I wonder if
this legally sound.
Ottavio
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For a while now we have maintained a web page listing hardware that
developers are looking for to help with their Debian development
efforts: http://www.debian.org/misc/hardware_wanted
Through this page, we have successfully obtained a number of machines,
for example some Cobalt boxes used for the
The following offer was made to hardware-donation:
> While on the topic of backups, I have an AIT-2 18 slot, 2 drive, 4U
> tape library made by overland. If the project could make use of it,
> it's currently located at my home in richmond hill, ny 11418. i
> think it is current
Debian has been offered two 19" cases. They are located in Utrecht,
NL. Does anyone have any use of them (that is Debian related)?
> I've got two leftover 19" cases here including powersupply. One is 4U
> and totally fine, the other is 2U and misses some part such that
> PCI-cards can not be at
On Friday 25 July 2003 14:44, Xavier Roche wrote:
> This is great news. Discussions on opteron port will be done in -devel?
> (especially problems like /lib+/lib64 vs /lib+/lib32, upgrading problems
> from i386 to opteron without-breaking-anything, and more)
No, there is another list for these iss
Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader wrote:
Digital Network UK and FMS Computer have kindly agreed to donate
machines to Debian.
This is great news. Discussions on opteron port will be done in -devel?
(especially problems like /lib+/lib64 vs /lib+/lib32, upgrading problems
from i386 to optero
* Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-07-25 08:27]:
> Back in April, AMD told us that they could not give us a machine:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200304/msg01174.html
>
> Perhaps the situation has changed, and we should ping them again?
Digital Network UK and F
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Greetings,
I'm pleased to announce that there's been a bit of a glut in SGI
Indys donated to Debian recently in both California and Germany.
There are three Indy's available in Southern California and additional
one may have a history of difficult booting. We can work out the
details of this befo
Greetings,
I have a (perhaps somewhat stale) offer from a donor for a
Alphastation 200 in Amsterdam. If people are interested, please email
me off list.
The usual rules apply: Debian developers and people in close geographic
proximity to get precedence in most cases but neither is absolutely
nece
Sorry to post this to -devel, but it wasn't clear where else to post, and
I didn't have any luck on IRC. Plus, hopefully this will help somebody
out.
I have 64MB memory module from an IBM Thinkpad 385XD but it should fit in
any model that takes 60ns 8Mx64 3.3v memory. (I don't know if it's
buffe
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