Re: Directory /boot/console-setup

2012-05-12 Thread intrigeri
Hi, Anton Zinoviev wrote (12 May 2012 12:04:31 GMT) : > Yves-Alexis Perez wrote on debian-devel: >> >> What do you mean with “this doesn't work in Debian”? Some people do use >> encrypted root and they do have a working console asking for the >> passphrase. > As far as I know currently the conso

Re: Bug#672160: Directory /boot/console-setup

2012-05-12 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 08:04:15PM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote: > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 07:01:20AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > No, you absolutely do *not* need this. The policy rule isn't "on purge, > > remove all config files if the admin hasn't edited them", it's "on purge, > > remove *a

Re: Bug#672160: Directory /boot/console-setup

2012-05-12 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 07:01:20AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > No, you absolutely do *not* need this. The policy rule isn't "on purge, > remove all config files if the admin hasn't edited them", it's "on purge, > remove *all configuration files*". All configuration files owned by the packag

Re: Directory /boot/console-setup

2012-05-12 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 03:04:31PM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 02:54:16PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 07:43:46PM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote: > > > Currently it creates files in the directory /etc/console-setup. As > > > a result when the pa

Re: Directory /boot/console-setup

2012-05-12 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 09:07:57AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Steve Langasek > > > My complaint is that this is excessively ugly. For persistent variable data > > that needs to be available during early boot, even when this is binary data > > that the user won't edit, /etc is the normal

Re: Directory /boot/console-setup

2012-05-11 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Steve Langasek > My complaint is that this is excessively ugly. For persistent variable data > that needs to be available during early boot, even when this is binary data > that the user won't edit, /etc is the normal place to keep it - it's the > creation of a a .cache subdirectory that I ob

Re: Directory /boot/console-setup

2012-05-10 Thread Steve Langasek
hen this is binary data that the user won't edit, /etc is the normal place to keep it - it's the creation of a a .cache subdirectory that I object to. > The second solution I propose is to generate the files in a directory > /boot/console-setup. After all the whole need of such directo

Re: Bug#672160: Directory /boot/console-setup

2012-05-10 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On ven., 2012-05-11 at 00:16 +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 09:40:23PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > > Generally the console has to work even before root is mounted, so > > that the user can enter a decryption password if necessary. > > Unfortunately, as far as I know

Re: Bug#672160: Directory /boot/console-setup

2012-05-10 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 09:40:23PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > Generally the console has to work even before root is mounted, so > that the user can enter a decryption password if necessary. Unfortunately, as far as I know currently this doesn't work in Debian. Proper wishlist bug reports h

Re: Bug#672160: Directory /boot/console-setup

2012-05-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:13:39PM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 07:45:21PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > > > > Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but /boot seems to be a very bad > > choice for the location, simply because it is not available any earlier > > than /var. >

Re: Bug#672160: Directory /boot/console-setup

2012-05-10 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 07:45:21PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > > Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but /boot seems to be a very bad > choice for the location, simply because it is not available any earlier > than /var. Ah, you are right. So it seems only /etc is an option. Thanks. Anton Zin

Re: Directory /boot/console-setup

2012-05-10 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2012-05-10 19:45 +0200, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 07:43:46PM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote: >> [Please preserve the CC to 672...@bugs.debian.org because I am not >> subscribed to debian-devel.] >> >> First the problem in few words. The package console-setup needs an >> acce

Re: Directory /boot/console-setup

2012-05-10 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 07:43:46PM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote: > [Please preserve the CC to 672...@bugs.debian.org because I am not > subscribed to debian-devel.] > > First the problem in few words. The package console-setup needs an > access to a directory similar to /var very early during th

Re: Bug#672160: Directory /boot/console-setup

2012-05-10 Thread Sven Joachim
console-tools and console-setup have been happily > doing policy violations regarding /etc since the very first version of > Debian. > > The second solution I propose is to generate the files in a directory > /boot/console-setup. After all the whole need of such directory arises

Directory /boot/console-setup

2012-05-10 Thread Anton Zinoviev
ion I propose is to generate the files in a directory /boot/console-setup. After all the whole need of such directory arises due to the specifics of the boot process. Personally, I think I prefer /boot to /etc. Some additional info: most of the time the package requires only read-only access to