Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2007-04-02 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Mike Hommey schreef: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 10:45:06AM -0500, alfredo diega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >>On 9/21/06, Ben Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>- >>>I can see you're frustrated. You've invested a lot of energy into >>>writing this note to us about a problem you see in

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-25 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-09-21 16:42:27, schrieb alfredo diega: > What is the best community distro based on free software that isn't > so free that it doesn't work. I guess that right now is Ubuntu. No Debian ;-) I have tried to run Ubunto as Server (for testing) and failed... So the best community distro bas

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-23 Thread Torsten Landschoff
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 11:28:02PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > and reverse engineering. The out-of-tree patches at the > time of 2.6.17 result in much faster transfers to SDHCI > devices. I don't know if dapper has these, and I don't > know if they made 2.6.18. I think that was

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-22 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 22 September 2006 00:42, alfredo diega wrote: > On 9/21/06, Thaddeus H. Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I ask you, is that > > fair? > > Well, I guess it isn't fair. Look, have any of you ever sent an email out > of > frustration, then wish you could take it back? I am sorry, I h

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread Steve Langasek
\ Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 04:42:27PM -0500, alfredo diega wrote: > I just need to loose my pride and switch to Ubuntu. I haven't and I know > the LUG here will laugh at me and tell me "We told you so" but what you > say is true. Different goals. What I was telling my friends was I wanted > to use t

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 21 September 2006 23:58 schrieb Amaya: > I guess you were "blessed" with an ugly piece of hardware with freedom > issues in its support. It is going to take some time until it is ready, > probably in a part of our archive that is labeled as non-free, and > maybe, as you own this hardw

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread Jon Dowland
At 1158835506 past the epoch, alfredo diega wrote: > Next: SD drive, works with Ubuntu with their "free > stuuf." Probably isn't supported by policy either. Without more specifics I can't be sure, but if it's an sdhci device, the driver was merged into mainline starting with 2.6.17. I believe da

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread Amaya
alfredo diega wrote: > Well, I guess it isn't fair. Look, have any of you ever sent an email > out of frustration, then wish you could take it back? I am sorry, I > hope somebody will forgive me. We all have, no big deal. > I just need to loose my pride and switch to Ubuntu. No, you just need

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread alfredo diega
On 9/21/06, Thaddeus H. Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   I ask you, is thatfair? Well, I guess it isn't fair.  Look, have any of you ever sent an email out of frustration, then wish you could take it back?  I am sorry, I hope somebody will forgive me. I just need to loose my pride and switch to

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread Tim Dijkstra
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:45:06 -0500 "alfredo diega" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lastly, suspend doesn't work with Debian but does with Dapper. What kind of suspend? suspend-to-ram (S3), (user space) software suspend to disk? How do you trigger it? FWIW, the kernels in dapper and unstable both ha

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 10:45:06AM -0500, alfredo diega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/21/06, Ben Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >- > >I can see you're frustrated. You've invested a lot of energy into > >writing this note to us about a problem you see in Debian. Now, if it > >real

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread Ben Armstrong
alfredo diega wrote: > Okay: Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG. According to this message at > bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=363967 it isn't packaged > because: > > "there is still an official statement of -release and -kernel about the > policy for oot-modules in etch missing." > > showing

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread alfredo diega
On 9/21/06, Ben Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: -I can see you're frustrated.  You've invested a lot of energy intowriting this note to us about a problem you see in Debian.  Now, if itreally does pain you to write it, the least you could do is tell us what your hardware is.  Otherwise, how d

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/21/06 08:46, Ben Armstrong wrote: > Alfredo, > > alfredo diega wrote: >>> It really pains me to write this since I have used stable for a long >>> time. >>> Unfortunately, I think you could use a wakeup call. >>> >>> Much of my hardware is nev

Re: Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread Ben Armstrong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alfredo, alfredo diega wrote: > It really pains me to write this since I have used stable for a long > time. > Unfortunately, I think you could use a wakeup call. > > Much of my hardware is never supported by you guys I can see you're frustrated.

Debian cares more about documents than people

2006-09-21 Thread alfredo diega
It really pains me to write this since I have used stable for a long time. Unfortunately, I think you could use a wakeup call.    Much of my hardware is never supported by you guys even though it is "free enough" to be supported by the linux kernel and other community groups like Ubuntu.  Dapper h