Re: You can now query Debian changelogs by keyword with dak's API

2025-08-04 Thread Sérgio Cipriano
> Hi! Is it also possible to search by Debian user id? It's possible to search for any matching pattern, but there’s no direct mapping between a Debian user id and searchable queries. If you're looking for something specific, you can try a query using your Debian email address inste

Re: You can now query Debian changelogs by keyword with dak's API

2025-08-04 Thread Andrea Pappacoda
On Mon Aug 4, 2025 at 3:11 AM CEST, Sérgio Cipriano wrote: It is now available an endpoint [1] in dak's API which provides a way to search through the changelogs of all Debian packages currently published. 1: https://api.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs Hi! Is it also possible to sear

Re: You can now query Debian changelogs by keyword with dak's API

2025-08-04 Thread Sérgio Cipriano
On 03/08/25 10:00, Boyuan Yang wrote: > Do you have any comment on its difference with > https://nm.debian.org/minechangelogs/search/ ? It is the same query: https://salsa.debian.org/nm-team/nm.debian.org/-/blob/master/minechangelogs/models.py?ref_type=heads#L110-116 https://salsa.debian.org/ftp

Re: You can now query Debian changelogs by keyword with dak's API

2025-08-03 Thread Boyuan Yang
Hi, 在 2025/8/3 21:11, Sérgio Cipriano 写道: Hi, It is now available an endpoint [1] in dak's API which provides a way to search through the changelogs of all Debian packages currently published. 1: https://api.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs I'm already using it to track my uploa

You can now query Debian changelogs by keyword with dak's API

2025-08-03 Thread Sérgio Cipriano
Hi, It is now available an endpoint [1] in dak's API which provides a way to search through the changelogs of all Debian packages currently published. 1: https://api.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs I'm already using it to track my uploads, I made page [2] using it.

Re: Debian Installer Trixie RC 2

2025-08-01 Thread Kenneth
Hi, I just installed Debian 13 trixie rc2 on a hp mini desktop which only allows booting with uefi/efi. 1. unfortuneately this means that debian will not auto start with screen reader after 30 seconds as when booting up on a legacy computer which has no uefi. 2. during the install wizard

Re: What's next for the Debian Wiki? (was Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine)

2025-07-31 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Otto, Am Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 12:02:40PM -0700 schrieb Otto Kekäläinen: > I just wanted to advertise once more in case somebody missed it: There > is now a https://wiki2025.debian.org/ and work to migrate to a new > Mediawiki based Debian wiki is in the progress. I had a *very* short

Re: What's next for the Debian Wiki? (was Re: wiki.d.o on a git-backed engine)

2025-07-27 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi all! I just wanted to advertise once more in case somebody missed it: There is now a https://wiki2025.debian.org/ and work to migrate to a new Mediawiki based Debian wiki is in the progress. If you want to contribute, please see the discussions on https://lists.debian.org/debian-wiki/2025/07

Bug#1038811: marked as done (general: Unable to poweroff and suspend after upgrading to Debian 12 from Debian 11)

2025-07-27 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Sun, 27 Jul 2025 17:29:53 +0200 with message-id and subject line Re: Bug#1038811: Kernel 6.3 also has these bugs. has caused the Debian Bug report #1038811, regarding general: Unable to poweroff and suspend after upgrading to Debian 12 from Debian 11 to be marked as done

Re: Debian Maintainers Keyring changes

2025-07-26 Thread Simon Josefsson
lead to the same SHA1 identifier, and someone is trying to get that into the Debian keyring. /Simon Debian FTP Masters writes: > The following changes to the debian-maintainers keyring have just been > activated: > > and...@bower.org.uk > Full name: Andrew Bower

Re: ITP of leancrypto and its debian/copyright

2025-07-25 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2025-07-25 Peter B wrote: > On 25/07/2025 09:17, Jérémy Lal wrote: >> Did you have a look at >> https://wiki.debian.org/CopyrightReviewTools >> ? > and specifically cme > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/cme > https://ddumont.wordpress.com/2015/04/05/improving-cre

Re: ITP of leancrypto and its debian/copyright

2025-07-25 Thread Ahmad Khalifa
On 25/07/2025 09:03, Simon Josefsson wrote: Working on 'leancrypto' packaging (which now build! see salsa pipeline below) made me consider life choices wrt debian/copyright. For several of my packages, I use 'lrc' to audit that debian/copyright file matches what '

Re: ITP of leancrypto and its debian/copyright

2025-07-25 Thread Peter B
On 25/07/2025 09:17, Jérémy Lal wrote: Did you have a look at https://wiki.debian.org/CopyrightReviewTools ? and specifically cme https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/cme https://ddumont.wordpress.com/2015/04/05/improving-creation-of-debian-copyright-file/ Cheers, Peter

Re: ITP of leancrypto and its debian/copyright

2025-07-25 Thread Jérémy Lal
Le ven. 25 juil. 2025 à 10:08, Simon Josefsson a écrit : > Working on 'leancrypto' packaging (which now build! see salsa pipeline > below) made me consider life choices wrt debian/copyright. > > For several of my packages, I use 'lrc' to audit that debi

ITP of leancrypto and its debian/copyright

2025-07-25 Thread Simon Josefsson
Working on 'leancrypto' packaging (which now build! see salsa pipeline below) made me consider life choices wrt debian/copyright. For several of my packages, I use 'lrc' to audit that debian/copyright file matches what 'licensecheck' thinks the license of files are.

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-24 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 11:28:02AM +0200, frikilinux2 wrote: not a DD but an autistic user, so maybe it's weird that I'm here but anyway, I don't see the problem with using AI for 3 reasons: 1.  There are concerns about AI detection tools flagging content generated by autistic people incorrect

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-24 Thread frikilinux2
riginal email but to have reasons to allow AI generated text. And as I understand the Debian Project, being accesible to as much people as possible, it's key to being a Distribution for everyone. "*No matter* how you identify yourself or *how others perceive you: we welcome you." (*An

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
uld help communication), here it's only used to try to make the mail more persuasive, just piling rhetoric. Which is not what we need for Debian. To make sure to fulfill our users' needs we need convincing mails, not persuasive mails. Samuel

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-24 Thread tomas
On Thu, Jul 24, 2025 at 09:16:12AM +0200, Lucy wrote: > > What a fascinating display of community dynamics. [...] @Lucy: please don't take my disagreement with Marc's tone as an endorsement of yours. Not by a far stretch. While I could have interpreted your first post as a genuine sign of distr

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Lucy, le jeu. 24 juil. 2025 09:16:12 +0200, a ecrit: > @Samuel: Ah yes, "ChatGPT-written polemic." Your AI is not even able to grasp who said what. Discussion can only stop here. Samuel

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-24 Thread Lucy
What a fascinating display of community dynamics. @GPTZero evangelists: Your algorithm flags coherent prose as artificial. How delightfully ironic that structured writing triggers your detectors while actual code quality apparently doesn't. No AI was involved, but I suppose when mediocrity bec

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-23 Thread Lee
On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 6:49 AM Aurélien COUDERC wrote: > > > > Le 23 juillet 2025 11:01:36 GMT+02:00, Lucy a écrit : > >Dear Debian Developers, > > Dear Lucy, > > for the record to everyone this has already been discussed in #1101759 [1] > and I declined to do

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-23 Thread Lee
On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 6:42 AM tomas wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 11:41:20AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have noticed that the Cc list is missing the Pope, the President, the > > Chancellor, the Chairperson of the Central Committee, Udo Lindenberg, Neil > > Armstrong and Jay L

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-23 Thread Soren Stoutner
On Wednesday, July 23, 2025 2:41:20 AM Mountain Standard Time Marc Haber wrote: > On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 11:01:36AM +0200, Lucy wrote: > >With the upcoming release of Debian 13 "Trixie", I want to formally > >raise a critical technical objection to one of the adopted

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-23 Thread Aurélien COUDERC
; write your petition? All this does is waste time and annoy people. > > I can see why people would use LLMs for translating emails or for > polishing text, but I wish there was a rule against emails to the > Debian mailing lists in which the meaningful portion of the content is >

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-23 Thread Aaron Rainbolt
On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 4:02 AM Lucy wrote: > > Dear Debian Developers, > > With the upcoming release of Debian 13 "Trixie", I want to formally raise a > critical technical objection to one of the adopted upstream changes that > risks undermining the efficiency, &

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-23 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 23, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: This is incredibly witty, but really: was it necessary? Maybe it was not /necessary/ strictly speaking, but it was definitely entertaining. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-23 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 12:36:58PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: Lucy, you are piling rhetoric over rhetoric, that won't make a fruitful discussion. ChatGPT-written polemic emails aren't intended to make a fruitful discussion. I would be glad if at least people on Debian lists

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-23 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 11:41:20AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > Hi, > > I have noticed that the Cc list is missing the Pope, the President, the > Chancellor, the Chairperson of the Central Committee, Udo Lindenberg, Neil > Armstrong and Jay Leno. The Person who has chosen this Cc list obviously > wa

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Lucy, you are piling rhetoric over rhetoric, that won't make a fruitful discussion. Lucy, le mer. 23 juil. 2025 12:01:59 +0200, a ecrit: > Debian has never just been “a Linux distro.” It has always stood for > deliberation, control, and the ability to resist upstream when need

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-23 Thread Aurélien COUDERC
Le 23 juillet 2025 11:01:36 GMT+02:00, Lucy a écrit : >Dear Debian Developers, Dear Lucy, for the record to everyone this has already been discussed in #1101759 [1] and I declined to do the change discussed here. Answering here as the Debian Plasma maintainer and member of the Deb

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-23 Thread Lucy
grade productivity? But Debian has never just been “a Linux distro.” It has always stood for deliberation, control, and the ability to resist upstream when needed. That was the reason professionals, power users, and sysadmins trusted Debian – because it wasn’t afraid to say: this default does not serve

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-23 Thread Yadd
give them that. That being said, On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 11:01:36AM +0200, Lucy wrote: With the upcoming release of Debian 13 "Trixie", I want to formally raise a critical technical objection to one of the adopted upstream changes that risks undermining the efficiency, consistency

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-23 Thread Marc Haber
, On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 11:01:36AM +0200, Lucy wrote: With the upcoming release of Debian 13 "Trixie", I want to formally raise a critical technical objection to one of the adopted upstream changes that risks undermining the efficiency, consistency, and user trust that Debian has l

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-23 Thread Ferdinand Klinzer
good point about don't think Debian should diverge from upstream KDE's decision on this. +1 cheers Ferdinand /-\ Samuel Thibault schrieb am Mi. 23. Juli 2025 um 11:20: > Hello, > > Lucy, le mer. 23 juil. 2025 11:01:36 +0200, a ecrit: > > 2. The double-cli

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-23 Thread Thomas Damgaard
on't think Debian should diverge from upstream KDE's decision on this. I agree. BR Thomas

Re: Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-23 Thread Samuel Thibault
thus I find it *dangerous* because users don't expect the file to suddenly get opened just because they clicked on it (to remove it, rename it, etc.). I don't think Debian should diverge from upstream KDE's decision on this. > This is not about nostalgia. It is not about UI philo

Technical objection to KDE double-click default in Debian 13 - Request for corrective action before release

2025-07-23 Thread Lucy
Dear Debian Developers, With the upcoming release of Debian 13 "Trixie", I want to formally raise a critical technical objection to one of the adopted upstream changes that risks undermining the efficiency, consistency, and user trust that Debian has long upheld: KDE Plasma 6

Re: New mailing list, Trixie, debian-installer

2025-07-19 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Jul 19, 2025 at 6:29 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 19, 2025 at 6:14 PM NoisyCoil wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I am proud to announce a new mailing list for Debian on Apple Silicon, > > debian-arm-ap...@lists.debian.org, has been creat

Re: New mailing list, Trixie, debian-installer

2025-07-19 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Jul 19, 2025 at 6:14 PM NoisyCoil wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am proud to announce a new mailing list for Debian on Apple Silicon, > debian-arm-ap...@lists.debian.org, has been created. From now on we will > move all discussion there, feel free to subscribe if you're

New mailing list, Trixie, debian-installer

2025-07-19 Thread NoisyCoil
Hi all, I am proud to announce a new mailing list for Debian on Apple Silicon, debian-arm-ap...@lists.debian.org, has been created. From now on we will move all discussion there, feel free to subscribe if you're interested! During the last few weeks we had time to test our asahi inst

Re: Debian on Apple M1/M2: status and call for testers

2025-07-11 Thread NoisyCoil
Hi Michael! On 09/07/25 14:11, Michael Lazin wrote: I am extremely interested in doing testing for Debian on the M1 platform.  I only have newer Macs so I ordered a refurbished M1 from Amazon to use for testing.  I would like to contribute to the Debian community.  I am not a full stack

Re: Debian on Apple M1/M2: status and call for testers

2025-07-09 Thread Michael Lazin
I am extremely interested in doing testing for Debian on the M1 platform. I only have newer Macs so I ordered a refurbished M1 from Amazon to use for testing. I would like to contribute to the Debian community. I am not a full stack programmer but I have experience QA testing games and I also

no go: Debian Installer Trixie RC 2

2025-07-07 Thread Chevelle
Hello, I tried to install using debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso 07-07 12:19. https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/ I type 's' to start Speech.  Then I hear something like press enter to use sound board 0.  After I press enter I hear nothing. I'm

Re: Debian on Apple M1/M2: status and call for testers

2025-07-01 Thread NoisyCoil
Hi again, FYI, due to an (asahi) upstream u-boot bug [1], you need a USB-C keyboard -- or USB-A keyboard plugged into USB-C via adapter -- to install the minimal (i.e. console) version of Debian on M2 Mac Minis. All other Macs, including M1s and laptops, are fine, as far as we know. This

Re: Debian on Apple M1/M2: status and call for testers

2025-06-21 Thread NoisyCoil
Hi! On 21/06/25 08:10, FritzS GMX wrote: At the moment the ‘normal’ version - Debian stable aarch64 is installed as a VM in UTM (QEMU) on my M1 MacMini. Would the Debian Linux asahi variant from Bananas Team also have advantages in a VM? If ‘yes’, what would be improved? No, it would have

Re: Debian on Apple M1/M2: status and call for testers

2025-06-20 Thread FritzS GMX
Hi all! At the moment the ‘normal’ version - Debian stable aarch64 is installed as a VM in UTM (QEMU) on my M1 MacMini. Would the Debian Linux asahi variant from Bananas Team also have advantages in a VM? If ‘yes’, what would be improved? Nobody has been able to answer this question yet. >

Debian on Apple M1/M2: status and call for testers

2025-06-19 Thread NoisyCoil
Hi all! This email is a call for testers for Debian on Apple machines with M1/M2 chips. The Bananas Team [1] has set up an installer at [2] with images for GNOME, KDE and console installations. While we'd like to build an actual Debian installer sooner or later (we may need a heads-up

Re: how to abtain only the debian directory of a package

2025-06-18 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 12:51:28PM +0200, PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel wrote: debsnap Indeed, it is quite slow compare to apt source... Not to me. Make sure you are using it correctly, e.g. make sure you are specifying the version to download. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: PGP sign

Re: how to abtain only the debian directory of a package

2025-06-18 Thread PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel
> debsnap Indeed, it is quite slow compare to apt source... thanks Fred

Re: how to abtain only the debian directory of a package

2025-06-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 11:59:11AM +0200, PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel wrote: Do we have a cli-tool whcih is an equivalent of apt source blabla=version, but connected by default to snapshot ? There's debsnap(1) in devscripts. -- Colin Watson (he/him) [cjwat...@debian.

Re: how to abtain only the debian directory of a package

2025-06-18 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 11:59:11AM +0200, PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel wrote: ... and hope that they don't patch the upstream source directly. The purpose is not necessarely to build every packages already uploaded into Debian :). Just a few packages from testing/unstable in order to

Re: how to abtain only the debian directory of a package

2025-06-18 Thread PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel
> ... and hope that they don't patch the upstream source directly. The purpose is not necessarely to build every packages already uploaded into Debian :). Just a few packages from testing/unstable in order to build backports on the current stable or exceptionally oldstable. Maybe a

Re: how to abtain only the debian directory of a package

2025-06-18 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Wed, Jun 18, 2025 at 11:30:05AM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: So to start with, I just want to get the debian directory of the testing/unstable version of package. How can I get this without downloading a full debian source package ? Ther is no easy way for native packages (i.e. where

Re: how to abtain only the debian directory of a package

2025-06-18 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2025-06-18 PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel wrote: [...] > So to start with, I just want to get the debian directory of the > testing/unstable version of package. > How can I get this without downloading a full debian source package ? Ther is no easy way for native packages (i.e. where t

how to abtain only the debian directory of a package

2025-06-18 Thread PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel
Hello, I would like to get only the debian directory of a package, in order to build locally a set of packages. My tools are for now, the dht programm from pkg-haskell-tools. This tool expect a flat directory organized like this p//debian It then create the dsc file from this and build all

Bug#1107475: libasyncns: How to continue maintenance of libasyncns in Debian

2025-06-07 Thread Andreas Tille
Source: libasyncns Version: 0.8-6 Severity: important X-Debbugs-Cc: Tanguy Ortolo , Tanguy Ortolo , debian-devel@lists.debian.org, 862...@bugs.debian.org, 862...@bugs.debian.org, Package Salvaging Team Hi Tanguy, Your package libasyncns was highlighted in the Bug of the Day[1] initiative

Re: My personal recommendation on how to create Debian packages from upstream Git

2025-06-04 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi, > Perhaps, to ease the burden of those of us maintaining many packages, > we could instead have this more complex rule: > > > The default debian branch is the first available of these, in order: > > 1. debian/latest > > 2. debian/unstable > > 3. debian/expe

Re: Notification settings in Salsa Debian Developers and Maintainers should review (Re: New contributor experience)

2025-06-04 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Wed, Jun 04, 2025 at 01:48:25PM +0300, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: Hi! I am not sure what is the default in Salsa for new repositories right now, but I suggest all Debian Developers/Maintainers who use Salsa to: - Review your global notification settings at https://salsa.debian.org/-/profile

Notification settings in Salsa Debian Developers and Maintainers should review (Re: New contributor experience)

2025-06-04 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hi! I am not sure what is the default in Salsa for new repositories right now, but I suggest all Debian Developers/Maintainers who use Salsa to: - Review your global notification settings at https://salsa.debian.org/-/profile/notifications - For each Salsa project you feel responsible for, go

Re: Renovating debbugs (was Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?)

2025-06-02 Thread Antonio Terceiro
esql+fastapi, while keeping the flat file > > > system only for archiving the bug log (the .log files) for at > > > least a significant period of time, but that bug log would be > > > write only. > > > > > > The code for this is about 25% there, b

Re: Renovating debbugs (was Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?)

2025-06-01 Thread Don Armstrong
g log (the .log files) for at > > least a significant period of time, but that bug log would be > > write only. > > > > The code for this is about 25% there, but I've been working on it > > for years now in my very limited Debian development time, so I > &g

Re: Renovating debbugs (was Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?)

2025-06-01 Thread Don Armstrong
n that > > debbugs runs is at https://bugs.debian.org/debbugs-source/debbugs/ > > FWIW the actual/working repository URL is > https://bugs.debian.org/debbugs-source/debbugs.git Sorry, I typoed. The above line should read https://bugs.debian.org/debbugs-source/debian/, which is a chec

Re: Renovating debbugs (was Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?)

2025-06-01 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Sun, Jun 01, 2025 at 09:54:09AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Tue, 27 May 2025, Otto Kekäläinen wrote:n > > I would assume Debbugs might evolve without you having to personally > > do all the improvements, if you allow improvements done by others > > flow in. As an example, I have had > > ht

Re: Renovating debbugs (was Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?)

2025-06-01 Thread Antonio Terceiro
; The code for this is about 25% there, but I've been working on it for > years now in my very limited Debian development time, so I don't have > a realistic timeline for completion. Do you have some design documentation and/or a TODO list that others could use to be able to contribute to this effort? signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Renovating debbugs (was Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?)

2025-06-01 Thread Don Armstrong
sts/6 > open for 4 years now. That's not an MR that I'll apply, because the actual version that debbugs runs is at https://bugs.debian.org/debbugs-source/debbugs/ Salsa isn't the actively running code for Debian, though it is a place that we're using as upstream. -- Don A

Re: Renovating debbugs (was Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?)

2025-06-01 Thread Don Armstrong
ng the flat file system only for archiving the bug log (the .log files) for at least a significant period of time, but that bug log would be write only. The code for this is about 25% there, but I've been working on it for years now in my very limited Debian development time, so I don

Re: Renovating debbugs (was Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?)

2025-06-01 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 29 May 2025, Colin Watson wrote:n > On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 02:22:00PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > > Also, I don't really see how to keep all the e-mail features it currently > > offers, > > while hiding email addresses. I quite often look up email addresses in bugs > > and contact peopl

Re: Broken in links in Debian History document - old news removed from www.debian.org

2025-05-31 Thread Thomas Lange
Hi Philipp, hi all, >>>>> On Sat, 31 May 2025 15:11:11 +0200, Philipp Kern said: > But to me the weirdest thing is that quite a few complained and there > was no real response rationalizing the decision. You may have missed this email https://lists.debian.o

Re: Broken in links in Debian History document - old news removed from www.debian.org

2025-05-31 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Philipp, Am Sat, May 31, 2025 at 03:11:11PM +0200 schrieb Philipp Kern: > On 5/9/25 1:45 AM, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > > On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 10:33:55PM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote: > >> I think about removing myself from the debian-www team. > >> Better no long

Re: Broken in links in Debian History document - old news removed from www.debian.org

2025-05-31 Thread Philipp Kern
On 5/9/25 1:45 AM, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 10:33:55PM +0200, Holger Wansing wrote: >> I think about removing myself from the debian-www team. >> Better no longer be part of it, otherwise people might blame me for such >> decisions ... > > Pl

Re: Renovating debbugs (was Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?)

2025-05-29 Thread Martin Hostettler
o view full headers, download mboxes and generate a working reply mailto: > link. It also won't completely solve the privacy issue, as e-mail addresses > can also be found in git repositories and mailing list archives. IMO it would > be better to recommend using a dedicated e-mail add

Re: Renovating debbugs (was Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?)

2025-05-29 Thread Holger Levsen
ers, Holger ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ OpenPGP: B8BF54137B09D35CF026FE9D 091AB856069AAA1C ⠈⠳⣄ If a monkey hoarded more bananas than it could eat, while most of the other monkeys starved, scientists would study that monkey to figure ou

Re: new contributor annoyances (was Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?)

2025-05-29 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 17607 March 1977, Julien Plissonneau Duquène wrote: The delay is only a part of the issue, the other part is the lack of feedback that would allow the user to know if her registration is still pending or has been rejected. Oh, reject you get a mail. If its deleted, you don't. I like the

Re: Renovating debbugs (was Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?)

2025-05-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 01:03:56PM +0200, Julien Plissonneau Duquène wrote: Right now we have an implementation that is dated but mostly works so I think that there is no need to rush a move. Working on it for a while and experimenting with the real data in there will certainly help with figuri

Re: Renovating debbugs (was Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?)

2025-05-29 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu May 29, 2025 at 9:58 AM BST, Holger Levsen wrote: (still, I think the answer to that should not be to hide email addresses but something else, eg maybe asking new bts users if they are aware that there email address will become public and block their submissions until they agree...) Bu

Re: Renovating debbugs (was Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?)

2025-05-29 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 29, Julien Plissonneau Duquène wrote: Security measures should be proportional to the specific threat, and we actually know that targeted malicious attacks to the BTS are not happening. We know that they didn't happen so far. I would not be so sure about the future. There is always a

Re: Renovating debbugs (was Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?)

2025-05-29 Thread Julien Plissonneau Duquène
Le 2025-05-29 10:58, Holger Levsen a écrit : (still, I think the answer to that should not be to hide email addresses but something else, eg maybe asking new bts users if they are aware that there email address will become public and block their submissions until they agree...) My personal

Re: Renovating debbugs (was Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?)

2025-05-29 Thread Julien Plissonneau Duquène
Le 2025-05-28 18:41, Marco d'Itri a écrit : Security measures should be proportional to the specific threat, and we actually know that targeted malicious attacks to the BTS are not happening. We know that they didn't happen so far. I would not be so sure about the future. Anyway there are

Re: Renovating debbugs (was Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?)

2025-05-29 Thread Julien Plissonneau Duquène
Le 2025-05-29 02:43, Colin Watson a écrit : While it might be possible to carry on doing without, the data fundamentally has many relational properties and an RDBMS would make life a lot easier. I wish I'd known what I know now about PostgreSQL when I was in my period of working on debbugs v

Re: Renovating debbugs (was Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?)

2025-05-29 Thread Pirate Praveen
These are part of the fighting spam strategy. It does not have to be a binary solution. There can be reasonable restrictions and if people have to target debian to get addresses that itself will avoid many email address harvestors. It does not have to be open to all if we can't prev

Re: My personal recommendation on how to create Debian packages from upstream Git

2025-05-29 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Thu 29 May 2025 at 11:31am +02, Marc Haber wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 10:27:09AM +0100, Sean Whitton wrote: >>On Wed 28 May 2025 at 10:04pm +02, Marc Haber wrote: >>> My personal pet peeve is the difference between the source package and the >>> packaging git repository contents.

Re: My personal recommendation on how to create Debian packages from upstream Git

2025-05-29 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 10:27:09AM +0100, Sean Whitton wrote: On Wed 28 May 2025 at 10:04pm +02, Marc Haber wrote: My personal pet peeve is the difference between the source package and the packaging git repository contents. Those two especially differ in the state of patches: They're applied in

Re: My personal recommendation on how to create Debian packages from upstream Git

2025-05-29 Thread Sean Whitton
bably want to use git-debrebase or git-dpm or single-debian-patch in addition to dgit. -- Sean Whitton signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: My personal recommendation on how to create Debian packages from upstream Git

2025-05-29 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Wed 28 May 2025 at 10:04pm +02, Marc Haber wrote: > My personal pet peeve is the difference between the source package and the > packaging git repository contents. Those two especially differ in the state of > patches: They're applied in the unpacked source package, and not applied in >

Re: Renovating debbugs (was Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?)

2025-05-29 Thread Holger Levsen
.) -- cheers, Holger ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ OpenPGP: B8BF54137B09D35CF026FE9D 091AB856069AAA1C ⠈⠳⣄ Wenn der Faschismus wiederkehrt, werden Medien ihn pflichtbewusst als "umstritten" bezeichnen. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Renovating debbugs (was Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?)

2025-05-29 Thread Holger Levsen
de yourself. -- cheers, Holger ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ OpenPGP: B8BF54137B09D35CF026FE9D 091AB856069AAA1C ⠈⠳⣄ There are many ways to kill. You can stab someone in the guts, take their bread away, not heal someone from disease, put someone in a

Re: patches-applied and patches-unapplied, dgit and source packages (was: Re: My personal recommendation on how to create Debian packages from upstream Git)

2025-05-29 Thread Joost van Baal-Ilić
On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 09:54:37AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 09:52:38AM +0200, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote: > > A, indeed. Otoh the dgit-people feel a source package should be treated as > > an > > intermediate build artifact; not something to be consumed by humans. > > Bu

patches-applied and patches-unapplied, dgit and source packages (was: Re: My personal recommendation on how to create Debian packages from upstream Git)

2025-05-29 Thread Joost van Baal-Ilić
Hi, On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 09:39:01AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 05:26:31AM +0200, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote: > > On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 10:04:01PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > > > > > My personal pet peeve is the difference between the source package and the > > > packagi

Re: My personal recommendation on how to create Debian packages from upstream Git

2025-05-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Marc Haber (2025-05-29 09:57:07) > On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 09:21:13AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > >Perhaps, to ease the burden of those of us maintaining many packages, > >we could instead have this more complex rule: > > > >> The default debian branch i

Re: My personal recommendation on how to create Debian packages from upstream Git

2025-05-29 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 09:21:13AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Perhaps, to ease the burden of those of us maintaining many packages, we could instead have this more complex rule: The default debian branch is the first available of these, in order: 1. debian/latest 2. debian/unstable 3

Re: Renovating debbugs (was Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?)

2025-05-29 Thread Pirate Praveen
, simplified documentation with full examples 6. track merge requests. Most of these I also very much agree with, however I doubt that *we* want to hide e-mail addresses from public (unauthenticated) web browsing. In my book the open development model of Debian is tied to the fact that we the developers

Re: patches-applied and patches-unapplied, dgit and source packages (was: Re: My personal recommendation on how to create Debian packages from upstream Git)

2025-05-29 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 09:52:38AM +0200, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote: A, indeed. Otoh the dgit-people feel a source package should be treated as an intermediate build artifact; not something to be consumed by humans. But if you decide not to use dgit you're back to source packages. It might be

Re: My personal recommendation on how to create Debian packages from upstream Git

2025-05-29 Thread Pirate Praveen
On 29/05/2025 12:51 pm, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Xiyue Deng (2025-05-29 06:15:30) Hi Holger, Holger Levsen writes: On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 12:21:16AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: If you suggest that using "debian/latest" should *not* be done by default, then it

Re: My personal recommendation on how to create Debian packages from upstream Git

2025-05-29 Thread Marc Haber
Hi, On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 05:26:31AM +0200, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 10:04:01PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: My personal pet peeve is the difference between the source package and the packaging git repository contents. Those two especially differ in the state of patches

Re: My personal recommendation on how to create Debian packages from upstream Git

2025-05-29 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Xiyue Deng (2025-05-29 06:15:30) > Hi Holger, > > Holger Levsen writes: > > > On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 12:21:16AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > >> If you suggest that using "debian/latest" should *not* be done by > >> default, then it s

Re: My personal recommendation on how to create Debian packages from upstream Git

2025-05-29 Thread Marc Haber
Hi, On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 11:11:47PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: my biggest problem with dep14 is that it doesnt recommend *one* layout. my biggest problem with how I see that interpreted is that I think debian/unstable is much better than debian/latest *as a default recommendation*. because

Re: My personal recommendation on how to create Debian packages from upstream Git

2025-05-28 Thread Xiyue Deng
Hi Holger, Holger Levsen writes: > On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 12:21:16AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: >> If you suggest that using "debian/latest" should *not* be done by >> default, then it seems that requires reverting changes to DEP-14. > > yes. dep14 currently

Re: My personal recommendation on how to create Debian packages from upstream Git

2025-05-28 Thread Joost van Baal-Ilić
gt; in > > particular these two: > > > > - https://optimizedbyotto.com/post/debian-packaging-from-git/ > > My personal pet peeve is the difference between the source package and the > packaging git repository contents. Those two especially differ in the state >

Re: Renovating debbugs (was Re: Interesting learnings about Guix contributor dynamics that apply to Debian?)

2025-05-28 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 01:53:21PM +0200, Julien Plissonneau Duquène wrote: Le 2025-05-27 20:30, Ahmad Khalifa a écrit : they all have a Database data model (faster search/query) Having some experience with databases, I'm not convinced that a RDBMS (SQL) is a necessity here. Better indexing a

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