Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-11 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 01:26:55PM -0500, Joey Hess a écrit : > Riku Voipio wrote: > > I think the short term solution to this dilemma is to compile a list > > of attributions needed to be included in advertizment material. > > Also a list should be compiled attributions needed n documentation > >

Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-09 Thread Joey Hess
Riku Voipio wrote: > I think the short term solution to this dilemma is to compile a list > of attributions needed to be included in advertizment material. > Also a list should be compiled attributions needed n documentation > (such as libjpeg's). Obviously most distributors/boob writers will > not

Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-09 Thread Riku Voipio
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 01:34:53PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > I think that it is a bit frivolous to distribute software with > advertisment clause in main and not properly warning the redistributors, I think the short term solution to this dilemma is to compile a list of attributions needed to

Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [You didn't honor my M-F-T so I guess this will continue to go to both > lists.] Indeed. > On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 12:29:29PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> The version in /usr/share/common-licenses/BSD is very specifically the >> UCB version, > A m

Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-07 Thread Branden Robinson
[You didn't honor my M-F-T so I guess this will continue to go to both lists.] On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 12:29:29PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I believe your reasoning is faulty, because it is based on incomplete > > information. There was more

Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I believe your reasoning is faulty, because it is based on incomplete > information. There was more than one "BSD" license in use well before > USB's Office of Technology Licensing withdrew the 4-clause version. [snip] While this is very interestin

Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Le Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 10:27:55PM -0800, Russ Allbery a écrit : >> Am I missing something? > This ? > http://web.archive.org/web/19990210065944/http://www.debian.org/misc/bsd.license > http://web.archive.org/web/20001205083200/http://www.debian.org/m

Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 10:27:55PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hm, I could have sworn that the DFSG predated the Constitution and hence > predated the existence of the three-clause BSD license. UCB dropped the > advertising clause in July of 1999 and the D

Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-06 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 10:27:55PM -0800, Russ Allbery a écrit : > > Am I missing something? This ? http://web.archive.org/web/19990210065944/http://www.debian.org/misc/bsd.license http://web.archive.org/web/20001205083200/http://www.debian.org/misc/bsd.license -- Charles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The 4-clause BSD license is not one that we list as an acceptable > license. > > DFSG http://www.debian.org/social_contract> §10: > > 10. Example Licenses > > The GPL, BSD, and Artistic licenses are examples of licenses that > we consider fre

Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-06 Thread Ben Finney
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't think it's horribly credible that including software covered > by the 4-clause BSD license in Debian violates the principle of > least surprise when we specifically list it as one of our acceptable > licenses in the DFSG. The 4-clause BSD license

Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think that it is a bit frivolous to distribute software with > advertisment clause in main and not properly warning the redistributors, > who are the most likely persons to infringe the clause. We should > remeber that for other aspects of licencing a

Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-06 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 06:44:38PM -0800, Russ Allbery a écrit : > Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > This example is maybe a bit artificial, but the point is that with such > > licences in main, redistributors who use advertisement should in theory > > read all the copyright files t

Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This example is maybe a bit artificial, but the point is that with such > licences in main, redistributors who use advertisement should in theory > read all the copyright files to check who to acknowledge. For this > reason, I wouldn't recommend to incl

Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-06 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 04:30:01PM +0100, Jean Parpaillon a écrit : > > 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this > software must display the following acknowledgement: > This produ