Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Luk Claes writes:
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Sun, Jul 26 2009, Luk Claes wrote:
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
A faster and smaller default system shell is important to a lot of our
users.
I see this asserted a lot. I am pretty sure that the average
user v
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Manoj Srivastava writes:
On Sun, Jul 26 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote:
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
So the deconf thing is purely a temporary thing and goes away. There
won't be a choice left. Users will just get /bin/sh pointing to dash
period.
No, /bin/sh is sh
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Raphael Hertzog writes:
I just would like it to be even better. And I haven't seen any real
constructive discussion about different methods of providing
/bin/sh. Mostly just angry replies along the lines of "We don't want
to break things. We do it this way." without d
Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 05:08:20PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
On upgrades you are asked if you want to have dash as default system
shell unless you have dash already installed, then we leave it as
is.
On my unstable box I received dash a few days ago, because an upload o
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:15:35AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 02:07:05AM +0200, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > You think the average user doesn't care about getting 50% faster boot
> > speeds?
> I don't get why you people keep repeating that it's only about faster boots.
> A
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 02:07:05AM +0200, Steve Langasek wrote:
> You think the average user doesn't care about getting 50% faster boot
> speeds?
I don't get why you people keep repeating that it's only about faster boots.
All shell scripts receive a speed boost.
--
1KB // Microsoft
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:47:00PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > You think the average user doesn't care about getting 50% faster boot
> > speeds?
>
> Now, where do you get the 50% faster speedup? I seem to recall
> a post on this list which reported much more modest speedups, and
>
On Sun, Jul 26 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 09:48:38AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> I see this asserted a lot. I am pretty sure that the average
>> user very likely does not care. The embedded system folks certainly do
>> --- but I am not sure that the count
On Sun, Jul 26 2009, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 05:08:20PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
>>
>> On upgrades you are asked if you want to have dash as default system
>> shell unless you have dash already installed, then we leave it as
>> is.
>
> On my unstable box I received dash
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 09:48:38AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> I see this asserted a lot. I am pretty sure that the average
> user very likely does not care. The embedded system folks certainly do
> --- but I am not sure that the counter assertion that systems will
> break if /bin/s
Luk Claes writes:
> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Sun, Jul 26 2009, Luk Claes wrote:
>>
>>> Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>
>>> A faster and smaller default system shell is important to a lot of our
>>> users.
>>
>> I see this asserted a lot. I am pretty sure that the average
>> user very
Manoj Srivastava writes:
> On Sun, Jul 26 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote:
>
>
>> Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>
>>> So the deconf thing is purely a temporary thing and goes away. There
>>> won't be a choice left. Users will just get /bin/sh pointing to dash
>>> period.
>
>> No, /bin/sh is shipped to
Raphael Hertzog writes:
> Hi,
>
> I haven't jumped into this discussion it but it starts annoying me...
>
> On Sun, 26 Jul 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> The choice being that the admin may dpkg-divert /bin/sh to whatever
>> shell he wants and he then can fix whatever breaks. Great. We alre
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 05:08:20PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
>
> On upgrades you are asked if you want to have dash as default system
> shell unless you have dash already installed, then we leave it as
> is.
On my unstable box I received dash a few days ago, because an upload of
bash started depend
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Sun, Jul 26 2009, Luk Claes wrote:
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
A faster and smaller default system shell is important to a lot of our
users.
I see this asserted a lot. I am pretty sure that the average
user very likely does not care. The embedded system
On Sun, Jul 26 2009, Luk Claes wrote:
> Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> You say that dash is configurable as /bin/sh via debconf but in the
>> next sentence you say you want dash to ship a /bin/sh link to dash. So
>> the deconf thing is purely a temporary thing and goes away. There
>> won't be a c
On Sun, Jul 26 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote:
> Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> So the deconf thing is purely a temporary thing and goes away. There
>> won't be a choice left. Users will just get /bin/sh pointing to dash
>> period.
> No, /bin/sh is shipped to guarantee a symlink.
I take
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Hi,
Hi
in the talk you said you add a choice for /bin/sh and you add more
freedom.
The choice being that the admin may dpkg-divert /bin/sh to whatever
shell he wants and he then can fix whatever breaks. Great. We already
have exactly that now. There is nothing add
Hi,
I haven't jumped into this discussion it but it starts annoying me...
On Sun, 26 Jul 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> The choice being that the admin may dpkg-divert /bin/sh to whatever
> shell he wants and he then can fix whatever breaks. Great. We already
> have exactly that now. There i
[No need to send me copies of replies, thanks]
Hi,
Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Hi,
>
> in the talk you said you add a choice for /bin/sh and you add more
> freedom.
True.
>
> The choice being that the admin may dpkg-divert /bin/sh to whatever
> shell he wants and he then can fix whatever br
Hi,
in the talk you said you add a choice for /bin/sh and you add more
freedom.
The choice being that the admin may dpkg-divert /bin/sh to whatever
shell he wants and he then can fix whatever breaks. Great. We already
have exactly that now. There is nothing added. No mechanism and no
assurances t
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