Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-08-06 Thread Andrew Kelley
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Andrew Kelley wrote: > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Marco d'Itri wrote: > >> If it makes sense to bundle multiple libraries in the same package which >> other packages may depend on then go for it. >> > > I understand. Here is an example of doing exactly this:

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-08-04 Thread Andrew Kelley
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Marco d'Itri wrote: > If it makes sense to bundle multiple libraries in the same package which > other packages may depend on then go for it. > I understand. Here is an example of doing exactly this: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-javascript/node-chalk.git/tre

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-08-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 05, Andrew Kelley wrote: > What do you expect me to do? It would be very easy to just bundle all > node_modules with the package but that is against Debian guidelines. Each > dependency must track upstream. So that's exactly what we're doing and > we're getting flak for it. > > It seems t

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-08-04 Thread Andrew Kelley
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 3:57 AM, Frederic Peters wrote: > Steve McIntyre wrote: > > > I've seen ITPs for a massive set of tiny-looking node libraries go > > past on -devel in the last few months, so I thought it was about time > > I looked at one. I'm a bit worried by what I've seen, considering

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-13 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 13 juillet 2014 08:50 +0100, Neil Williams  : >> > And I've got to ask: for the couple of trivial examples that >> > Frederick pointed out - why on earth do these even exist as >> > libraries instead of being inlined wherever they're needed? >> >> Because, in node, a library is cheap and the f

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-13 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 13 juillet 2014 11:34 +0200, Jeroen Dekkers  : >> > And I've got to ask: for the couple of trivial examples that Frederick >> > pointed out - why on earth do these even exist as libraries instead of >> > being inlined wherever they're needed? >> >> Because, in node, a library is cheap and the

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-13 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
At Sun, 13 Jul 2014 09:26:38 +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: > > ❦ 12 juillet 2014 23:08 +0100, Steve McIntyre  : > > > And I've got to ask: for the couple of trivial examples that Frederick > > pointed out - why on earth do these even exist as libraries instead of > > being inlined wherever they'r

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-13 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014 09:26:38 +0200 Vincent Bernat wrote: > ❦ 12 juillet 2014 23:08 +0100, Steve McIntyre  : > > > And I've got to ask: for the couple of trivial examples that > > Frederick pointed out - why on earth do these even exist as > > libraries instead of being inlined wherever they're

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-13 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 12 juillet 2014 23:08 +0100, Steve McIntyre  : > And I've got to ask: for the couple of trivial examples that Frederick > pointed out - why on earth do these even exist as libraries instead of > being inlined wherever they're needed? Because, in node, a library is cheap and the functionality g

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
kapo...@melix.org wrote: >Le samedi 12 juillet 2014 à 12:03 +0100, Steve McIntyre a écrit : >> >> Right. Did you discuss that with ftpmaster or anybody else outside of >> the javascript team? There's typically been a consensus against very >> small packages containing just a single script or pie

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
l...@ubuntu.com wrote: >On 12 July 2014 15:15, Michael Banck wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 12:55:02PM +0200, Leo Iannacone wrote: >>> >>> But, after discussing this in JavaScript team we ended up that it is >>> better have separated packages, instead of having a big >>> "nodejs-common" (or wha

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 16:12:17 +0200 Leo Iannacone wrote: > >> > Am I missing something, or is the working code in this package > >> > really just 111 lines? Why isn't this bundled up into something > >> > more reasonable in size for the packaging system? > >> > >> No, > >> you're right. It is real

Bootstrapping also increases the package count (was: Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility)

2014-07-12 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, Quoting Russ Allbery (2014-07-12 19:19:16) > I'd really like to see us solve this problem by figuring out a better > metadata distribution system (and IIRC some progress was made on that > front recently) than in making life more difficult for packagers. which progress is that? With bootstra

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Frederic Peters writes: > Indeed, I also recently looked at some, but didn't speak about it; just > like we have LaTeX packages including a serie of CTAN packages, I > believe it would make sense to have the same sort of thing for node.js > modules. The CTAN case is a little bit different, as I

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve McIntyre writes: > Right. Did you discuss that with ftpmaster or anybody else outside of > the javascript team? There's typically been a consensus against very > small packages containing just a single script or piece of code so small > that the packaging metadata is going to be as big as (

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Leo Iannacone
On 12 July 2014 15:15, Michael Banck wrote: > On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 12:55:02PM +0200, Leo Iannacone wrote: >> On 12 July 2014 12:35, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> > l...@ubuntu.com wrote: >> >>Package: wnpp >> >>Severity: wishlist >> >>Owner: Leo Iannacone >> >>X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debi

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Michael Banck
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 12:55:02PM +0200, Leo Iannacone wrote: > On 12 July 2014 12:35, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > l...@ubuntu.com wrote: > >>Package: wnpp > >>Severity: wishlist > >>Owner: Leo Iannacone > >>X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > >> > >>* Package name: node-ms > >> Ver

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Jérémy Lal
Le samedi 12 juillet 2014 à 12:03 +0100, Steve McIntyre a écrit : > On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 12:55:02PM +0200, Leo Iannacone wrote: > >On 12 July 2014 12:35, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >> > >> tack:~/debian/ms.js$ wc -l index.js > >> 111 index.js > >> > >> Am I missing something, or is the working cod

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 12:55:02PM +0200, Leo Iannacone wrote: >On 12 July 2014 12:35, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> >> tack:~/debian/ms.js$ wc -l index.js >> 111 index.js >> >> Am I missing something, or is the working code in this package really >> just 111 lines? Why isn't this bundled up into somet

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Frederic Peters
Steve McIntyre wrote: > I've seen ITPs for a massive set of tiny-looking node libraries go > past on -devel in the last few months, so I thought it was about time > I looked at one. I'm a bit worried by what I've seen, considering > typical discussions in the past about really small packages. > >

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Leo Iannacone
On 12 July 2014 12:35, Steve McIntyre wrote: > l...@ubuntu.com wrote: >>Package: wnpp >>Severity: wishlist >>Owner: Leo Iannacone >>X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org >> >>* Package name: node-ms >> Version : 0.6.2 >> Upstream Author : Guillermo Rauch >>* URL :

Re: Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Steve McIntyre
l...@ubuntu.com wrote: >Package: wnpp >Severity: wishlist >Owner: Leo Iannacone >X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > >* Package name: node-ms > Version : 0.6.2 > Upstream Author : Guillermo Rauch >* URL : https://github.com/guille/ms.js >* License : Exp

Bug#754551: ITP: node-ms -- milliseconds conversion utility

2014-07-12 Thread Leo Iannacone
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Leo Iannacone X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: node-ms Version : 0.6.2 Upstream Author : Guillermo Rauch * URL : https://github.com/guille/ms.js * License : Expat Programming Lang: JavaScript