Re: Bug#688251: #688251: Built-Using description too aggressive

2013-10-13 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 05:30:12PM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : > > The attached patch is a third attempt, which underlines that the Built-Using > field is particularly useful when a given package, contributing contents > included in another package, can not be replaced by a later version. It

Re: Bug#688251: #688251: Built-Using description too aggressive

2013-10-06 Thread Charles Plessy
Thanks everybody for your contributions to clarify the uses case of the Built-Using field. The attached patch is a third attempt, which underlines that the Built-Using field is particularly useful when a given package, contributing contents included in another package, can not be replaced by a lat

Re: Bug#688251: #688251: Built-Using description too aggressive

2013-10-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 03:01:51PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 09:08:55AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > The question is how to make it clear that's not the intent, which > > requires figuring out how to separate the other use cases from the gcc > > and glibc case. >

Re: Bug#688251: #688251: Built-Using description too aggressive

2013-09-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 09:08:55AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > The question is how to make it clear that's not the intent, which > requires figuring out how to separate the other use cases from the gcc > and glibc case. I guess the general answer you're looking for depends on the use cases Built-

Re: Bug#688251: #688251: Built-Using description too aggressive

2013-09-28 Thread Charles Plessy
user debian-pol...@packages.debian.org tag 688251 - patch usertags 688251 discussion thanks Le Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 09:08:55AM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit : > > The basic problem that we're trying to solve is that nearly every package > in Debian incorporates code from gcc and/or libc into the re

Re: Bug#688251: #688251: Built-Using description too aggressive

2013-09-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Paul Wise writes: > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: >> I paste below the current wording in the Policy 3.9.4. If you have an >> improvement to propose, that would be much appreciated ! > The wording doesn't appear confusing to me so I'm not the best person > to propose w

Re: Bug#688251: #688251: Built-Using description too aggressive

2013-09-23 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
On 09/23/2013 10:56, Paul Wise wrote: > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 5:33 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: >> do you think that the attached patch would solve the problem ? > > There are more reasons for using Built-Using than licenses, for example: > > Rebuilding against updated versions of static libraries

Re: Bug#688251: #688251: Built-Using description too aggressive

2013-09-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > I paste below the current wording in the Policy 3.9.4. If you have an > improvement to propose, that would be much appreciated ! The wording doesn't appear confusing to me so I'm not the best person to propose wording changes. > The prob

Re: Bug#688251: #688251: Built-Using description too aggressive

2013-09-23 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:56:28AM +0200, Paul Wise a écrit : > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 5:33 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > > > do you think that the attached patch would solve the problem ? > > There are more reasons for using Built-Using than licenses, for example: > > Rebuilding against updated

Re: Bug#688251: #688251: Built-Using description too aggressive

2013-09-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 5:33 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > do you think that the attached patch would solve the problem ? There are more reasons for using Built-Using than licenses, for example: Rebuilding against updated versions of static libraries. Rebuilding the debian-installer-*-netboot-* pa

Re: Bug#688251: #688251: Built-Using description too aggressive

2013-09-22 Thread Charles Plessy
tag 688251 patch thanks Le Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 08:57:34AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : > > I would like to make the short-term clarification for the next revision of the > Policy. In its simplest form, it could be the addition of something like > "when > the combination of licenses requires